It's hard to make a safety net for EVERYONE

you mean alfie?

Yes.

alfie was a travesty

I don't think that difficulty is a convincing argument

That case was absolutely ridiculous

It WAS available in Italy

It's the government's job to protect the citizen's rights

It WAS available in the United States.

Italy offered to help

and transport, etc

"We've decided that your child won't probably live, so we won't let you go to Italy for a treatment that may actually save his life"

The parents had means to pay for it as well.

Right but socialist healthcare cannot feasibly be a right

Complete bullshit

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Bingo!

Who's talking about socialism?

Nor can being kept alive be a right

@RyeNorth Rye, the UK has a much smaller, more educated public

It'll work there, not in a country like America

We were talking about medicaid for the disabled

That's not the point, shiv.

I was saying it's easy to make an exception for a small group and produce a solution for a small number that works well

The point is they were forbidden to seek external care

So long as the larger system makes sense and is running smoothly

and forbidden to take their child somewhere

Where is the infringement on Health Care, as a Human Right, actually occuring?

Oooh you were talking about that dying kid

I view things pretty much the same way as Thomas Paine did, but not quite as far as he went in Agrarian Justice

sorry

I didn't scroll up

It's fine.

I'm just reclaiming the Human Right argument for socialized healthcare.

Also socialized healthcare hasn't been working in the UK, and it's not really working in Canada either

Often the systems people point to next are two tier

Australia and Germany for instance

State funded healthcare should be an OPTION but not the ONLY one

i agree

if the state can afford it

Private should still be availible