So, let's go with a rececnt example.

What about those unable to seek care? Like the disabled?

Okay so we're hitting it from a remove barriers to competition angle

that's a very fringe case

It's not to me. I'd like to live please

yea candidate whose running in my area specified right to choose your healthcare

There's Medicare and Medicaid for disabled and/or elderly people

It's not hard to make a safety net for fringe cases

Healthcare is a human right. Great Britain has the NHS, which gives access to healthcare. There was recently a case of a child that was terminally ill, and a treatment that may have saved their life wasn't available in Great Britain.

well you can type and find discord

It's hard to make a safety net for EVERYONE

you mean alfie?

Yes.

alfie was a travesty

I don't think that difficulty is a convincing argument

That case was absolutely ridiculous

It WAS available in Italy

It's the government's job to protect the citizen's rights

It WAS available in the United States.

Italy offered to help

and transport, etc

"We've decided that your child won't probably live, so we won't let you go to Italy for a treatment that may actually save his life"

The parents had means to pay for it as well.

Right but socialist healthcare cannot feasibly be a right

Complete bullshit

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Bingo!

Who's talking about socialism?

Nor can being kept alive be a right

@RyeNorth Rye, the UK has a much smaller, more educated public

It'll work there, not in a country like America

We were talking about medicaid for the disabled

That's not the point, shiv.

I was saying it's easy to make an exception for a small group and produce a solution for a small number that works well

The point is they were forbidden to seek external care

So long as the larger system makes sense and is running smoothly

and forbidden to take their child somewhere

Where is the infringement on Health Care, as a Human Right, actually occuring?

Oooh you were talking about that dying kid

I view things pretty much the same way as Thomas Paine did, but not quite as far as he went in Agrarian Justice

sorry