Message from @>Cytos, de lieve goede synth
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it is helpful
then it is not genetics
its partially genetics
unless that nurture is changing their genetics
between 50 and 80% of it is genetics
its not all or nothing
their child, not the end result
the base level IQ right when you can start measuring IQ, before nurture has any play in it
oh from that perspective
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that starting range, is only determined by genetics no?
genetics have a theoretical maximum unobtainable IQ
and then every action you do that deviates from the "perfect IQ path"
deminishes it slightly
technically all of this is "theoretical" until you can point to me the "IQ genes"
show me the genes is BS too
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but lets not distract ourselves yet
so.... its in their DNA.... but its not their DNA?
eating lead paint chips will deminish a lot, not eating the required amount of vitamin C that one time in august 21th when you where 7 years old will do so a lot less
rich babies have less deminishing nurtures, but their theoretical (unobtainable) maximum IQ is still the same
question: Have these tests taken into account nurture starting from conception? I.E. mothers health? because twin studies are helpful, but without controlling for the mothers health habits there is a pretty important period of development in which nurture can very much affect the resulting baby before IQ tests can be measured.
mothers health effects both twins equally, unles you can prove me otherwise
yes... which means they can be damaged or improved equally.
potentially away
yes, but you can not use mothers health to explain a difference in IQ
as it effects both infants equally
you fail to understand the point
up until they are born, they are nurtured equally.
this may interest you https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4270739/
post being born, ideally they are split up and sent to their adoptive families...
correct, which is how you get the two different IQs. but the best for both of them is set during pregnancy.
a friend of mine is studying genetics
if you don't control for the mother, what happens when she does damage to the developing child.
or the environment does
not exactly, as soon as the genetic material is combined the theoretical maximum IQ could be calculated, asuming perfect knowledge
have they accounted for this?
you mean the adoptive mother?