Message from @>Cytos, de lieve goede synth

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2018-07-13 12:36:05 UTC  

yes, but like what? can it find the tit on its own?

2018-07-13 12:36:21 UTC  

nah thats all nurture pretty much, they can suck tiddy from the getgo

2018-07-13 12:36:26 UTC  

they can also grasp from the getgo

2018-07-13 12:36:37 UTC  

at what age do these tests count?

2018-07-13 12:36:45 UTC  

as soon as they can do a trick pretty much

2018-07-13 12:36:54 UTC  

there are some tricks we all learn as babies

2018-07-13 12:37:05 UTC  

like object permanence

2018-07-13 12:37:34 UTC  

the faster a baby understands object permanence, the higher its IQ is projected to be, if it does not eat any lead paint while growing up

2018-07-13 12:37:57 UTC  

although its IQ will likely still be higher then those that understand object permanence later, and consume the same amount of lead paint

2018-07-13 12:37:58 UTC  

on average

2018-07-13 12:38:00 UTC  

so no toys made in china

2018-07-13 12:38:12 UTC  

a other more simpler test

2018-07-13 12:38:34 UTC  

is to put a lil sticky ball on the forhead of the baby, that it cant sense cause of weight of feeling or anything

2018-07-13 12:38:39 UTC  

and then put the baby infront of a mirror

2018-07-13 12:39:03 UTC  

if the baby swats away the ball using his reflection, he understands the "mirror trick"

2018-07-13 12:39:18 UTC  

the faster a baby learns that, the higher its IQ

2018-07-13 12:39:33 UTC  

first word is another one

2018-07-13 12:39:43 UTC  

now here is a question: does the IQ of when you are an adult ever matter when trying to figure out the likely intelligence range of their kid?

2018-07-13 12:40:07 UTC  

you meaure IQ based on age anyway all the time

2018-07-13 12:40:16 UTC  

you dont compare babies to adults ofcourse

2018-07-13 12:40:28 UTC  

the average baby IQ is 100, just liket he average adult

2018-07-13 12:40:57 UTC  

in general IQ stays static save brain injuries or malnurishment etc etc

2018-07-13 12:41:11 UTC  

till you are about 30, then it decreases

2018-07-13 12:41:21 UTC  

but if 20-50% is nurture, then the IQ of when they are an adult ends up not being helpful when trying to figure out the potential IQ range of their child

2018-07-13 12:41:42 UTC  

the differences become bigger the older you get, and people that excercise less, their IQ drops more

2018-07-13 12:41:57 UTC  

not true grenade

2018-07-13 12:42:01 UTC  

it is helpful

2018-07-13 12:42:07 UTC  

then it is not genetics

2018-07-13 12:42:13 UTC  

its partially genetics

2018-07-13 12:42:21 UTC  

unless that nurture is changing their genetics

2018-07-13 12:42:23 UTC  

between 50 and 80% of it is genetics

2018-07-13 12:42:39 UTC  

its not all or nothing

2018-07-13 12:42:51 UTC  

their child, not the end result

2018-07-13 12:43:11 UTC  

the base level IQ right when you can start measuring IQ, before nurture has any play in it

2018-07-13 12:43:37 UTC  

oh from that perspective

2018-07-13 12:43:39 UTC  

🤔

2018-07-13 12:43:49 UTC  

that starting range, is only determined by genetics no?

2018-07-13 12:43:52 UTC  

genetics have a theoretical maximum unobtainable IQ

2018-07-13 12:44:09 UTC  

and then every action you do that deviates from the "perfect IQ path"

2018-07-13 12:44:14 UTC  

deminishes it slightly