Message from @pratel
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They're libertarian though
This is a problem with Left-Right
In no small part because the labels are fragmenting right now.
@pratel positions like social liberal aren't broad terms
The lean to the sides of social / classical liberal is so insignificant the difference doesn't really matter
The four way compass clears up some confusion, but its still really imperfect
8values is much better
Left-right in the political compass refer to economy
also do 8 values
Top down in the political compass refers to level of government control
Left right refers to economic values
I also think the left right divide is stupid and it should be libertarian / authoritarian but meh
That's the libertarian side, yes?
I'd view classical liberals on that right side circle
And positions like mine in the left circle
@Scarlet Sargon did the political compass recently
He was centre left
I remember sargons economic views being very traditionally right leaning
Honestly, it doesn't even matter.
yeah thats part of why labels in general CAN be misleading
Labels are just labels.
But everyone fights over these labels as if there are clear distinctions.
Oh, labels do matter, pratel
Lol
im a homosexual, i really love my home 😄
Very much
They do, but it'd be nice if they mattered less
It can change anyone's approach to your arguments
Labels matter in coarse discourse
now that obama called out identity politics lets make a list of far lefties who will turn and start calling for civility
yeah a label doesnt dictate your feelings on a very specific issue
But it doesn't matter if you are actually going to take the time to figure out how someone thinks.
XD
Obama called out Identity politics?
@pratel no one does so except intellectuals
yes very much he did
Nice
They've stopped calling out IDpol, but they started with some strong anti-IDPol lefties.