Or Dave rubin

Personally, I don't like all these labels.

You have a very idea of what lies where then me.

I think you have to endorse certain positions to place well.

Classical liberals are fairly firmly right leaning to me

Rather than take broad terms.

They're libertarian though

This is a problem with Left-Right

In no small part because the labels are fragmenting right now.

@pratel positions like social liberal aren't broad terms

The lean to the sides of social / classical liberal is so insignificant the difference doesn't really matter

The four way compass clears up some confusion, but its still really imperfect

8values is much better

Left-right in the political compass refer to economy

also do 8 values

Top down in the political compass refers to level of government control

Left right refers to economic values

https://i.imgur.com/3ui5PuB.png

I also think the left right divide is stupid and it should be libertarian / authoritarian but meh

That's the libertarian side, yes?

I'd view classical liberals on that right side circle

And positions like mine in the left circle

@Scarlet Sargon did the political compass recently

He was centre left

I remember sargons economic views being very traditionally right leaning

Honestly, it doesn't even matter.

Like, suppose you call yourself a faluhousa. It doesn't change a thing.

yeah thats part of why labels in general CAN be misleading

Labels are just labels.

But everyone fights over these labels as if there are clear distinctions.

Oh, labels do matter, pratel

Lol

im a homosexual, i really love my home 😄

Very much

They do, but it'd be nice if they mattered less

It can change anyone's approach to your arguments

Labels matter in coarse discourse

now that obama called out identity politics lets make a list of far lefties who will turn and start calling for civility

yeah a label doesnt dictate your feelings on a very specific issue

But it doesn't matter if you are actually going to take the time to figure out how someone thinks.

XD