Message from @pratel
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@ScarletTim is a social liberal
Pretty frequently.
And social liberal is very left
I'm not sure what the convo is exactly about because it's almost 4am and I'm too tired to scroll all the way up but I'll say there is also difference between Social Justice ADVACE and Warrior
'Social liberal' is a umbrella i'd usually be comfortable under.
It's in the middle of the bottom left
Advocate*
ffs
But depending on country, that could be center left more then anything
The problem is that it's becoming hard to tell what that means.
Nah, centre left is classical liberal
Like sargon
Or Dave rubin
Personally, I don't like all these labels.
You have a very idea of what lies where then me.
I think you have to endorse certain positions to place well.
Classical liberals are fairly firmly right leaning to me
Rather than take broad terms.
They're libertarian though
This is a problem with Left-Right
@pratel positions like social liberal aren't broad terms
The lean to the sides of social / classical liberal is so insignificant the difference doesn't really matter
The four way compass clears up some confusion, but its still really imperfect
8values is much better
Left-right in the political compass refer to economy
also do 8 values
Top down in the political compass refers to level of government control
Left right refers to economic values
I also think the left right divide is stupid and it should be libertarian / authoritarian but meh
That's the libertarian side, yes?
I'd view classical liberals on that right side circle
And positions like mine in the left circle
@Scarlet Sargon did the political compass recently
He was centre left
I remember sargons economic views being very traditionally right leaning
Honestly, it doesn't even matter.
Like, suppose you call yourself a faluhousa. It doesn't change a thing.
yeah thats part of why labels in general CAN be misleading
Labels are just labels.