and there is a fact,

You're taking someone elses money they earned, by force

because you feel bad for another

no, that's not what im saying

atleast trying

And yet taking money earned by force (You're talking about taxes) rarely involves force, and is widely socially accepted, if grumbled about

what happens if i don't pay my taxes?

you are assuming that welfare only care for people who never contributed to it

I dunno how you do it in the US actually

in your country,

What happens if you don't pay taxes

But here they usually start trying to intercept your money, take it from your bank account, paycheck

Something like that

yes, so they take it from you by force

you don't get to say "no" and live with your own money

Not physical force, which is what is often implied

To be fair it is an indirect potential for force rather than jumping straight to force

I for one think taxes are good

or rather highly necessary

well if we are putting it like that, you are trying to mooch of the "wellfare state" by not paying taxes

I think they're a necesarry evil,

But they're still theft,

You worked for your money, not a single person has any claim or entitlement to it than you, because you put your own time and life into earning it

I wouldn't call it theft because you choose to live in a country

I can't exactly found my own country anymore 😛

And pretty much nothing here is 100% clear like the earth center/sun center thing is, or 1+1=2
You could say that taxes are capital taken by force as a fact i suppose, but whether thats a problem, that entirely becomes a opinion

Can go to another country

every country has taxes

probably a reason for that

you could probably setup a big boat in international water and live there

Not every country has a income tax

because it wouldn't be a country without it, its not just welfare money,

Taxes pay for government to actually run, military etc

well, can always live in the woods like amonk or something

or build a cylindrical spinning space station, but they both cost a lot of money

international waters !

I'd love a space station, with a death-cannon 😦

there, I gave you perfect solution 😄

A military is basically necessary to have land, you could have your own military but it is much easier to pay a fee for one

not just easier but most would argue beneficial

@Dr.Wol Death cannon? you have caused international incidents before even leaving concept stage 😦

guy! i can barely afford my own house, how am i gonna scrape by enough dough for a realistic space station? 😄

speaking of that though, have you seen Isaac Arthur?

he got videos about space and futurism

gay space communism ?

but the point is, if you eliminate emotions,

Taxes are theft, because people can't say "no" to their money being taken

And i'm all for some degree of taxes (to an extent)