No, I said "should Stephen Hawking have been aborted?" With the caveat that his disability could be detected before birth. To which your response was "Pop em"

if he was my child, sure

i'd pop him personally if needs be 😛

Their parents should be able to make that choice

exactly

Right so I'm talking about the "should"

If you want to talk about other things, make that clear instead of moving the goalposts

I never moved my goalpost

you just misread my argument and started debating that 😮

And if people argue that the gov should pay to maintain them all. It starts to become arguable why not abort all of them if we could

I didn't say "if he was your child"

we were talking about the right to abort your child

Yes, and I asked about the moral aspect, not legal

there is no moral aspect to abortion

I disagree with you there

No? So right up until birth you should be able to turn it into slurry?

There is, but Natural Selection is way more important imo

I never said that,

theres a difference between right/wrong and morality

No, morality is a value judgement of right and wrong

no its not

Then what is morality?

Morality is a personal compass to say "i find this acceptable" or not

I find abortion morally acceptable, but still wrong to just do whilley nillely

No, it's not basic acceptability

Muslims find it morally acceptable to rape women who dress provocatively

You can accept something but have it grate against your moral compass

Christians used to find it morally acceptable to kill unbelievers

Wasn't that against the teachings of Jesus?

the bible contradicts itself several times, i'm sure at some point in the book it is against it

You can think something is wrong (same as morally wrong) and still deem it acceptable

Fwiw "morality

NOUN

mass noun

1Principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour."

So wouldn't it be argued that it wasn't moral for them to do so?

They just created their own morality.

They probably thought of it as if you don't follow Christianity then you are suffering and death would be the preferable option.

Morality can be a body of standards or principles derived from a code of conduct from a particular philosophy, religion or culture, or it can derive from a standard that a person believes should be universal. Morality may also be specifically synonymous with "goodness" or "rightness".

@.B I don't see why eugenics would be a good moral standard tbh

its a body of standards

People decide what is right or wrong based on their own morals

Hence its subjective, so a person can not actively state what is right or wrong, because everyone has a different take on things

That is, again, not what you argued lol

yes it is 😮

its a personal system for what you find acceptable

No, you said there's a difference between morality and "right and wrong"

there is