yes, so they can get a regular job to save up capital

a fully immobile person can't just get a job anywhere

No, but they can find work, and they're a tiny minority

It's not like we have legions of quadriplegics

“I cannot give you the formula for success, but I can give you the formula for failure: which is: Try to please everybody.”

— Herbert B. Swope

nice

thats no metric though,

Theres no legions of ME either, so we should do everything to keep me alive at all costs

Theres no legions of terrorists waiting to enter, so lets just let a few in 😉

You're falling into a false dichotomy

no im not

It isn't "we have to pay for everything" or "we ought to abort them"

Yes you are

i'm saying that "we have just a few" is no reason why they should then be sustained at all cost

It's not "doing everything to keep them alive", I'm contesting the idea that they *should* in your words, be aborted

Lets make it simple then, if they can survive on their own, they can live

You don't know that until they do or dont

if i put the fetus out of the womb, and it survives, it can live 😉

You're moving towards absurdities instead of actually addressing the argument

I never said they should be aborted

I said i should have the right to abort my child if I find it will be debilitated in life

god forbid, i'm not pro-eugenics

and no i shouldn't be forced to pay for another who didn't either

No, I said "should Stephen Hawking have been aborted?" With the caveat that his disability could be detected before birth. To which your response was "Pop em"

if he was my child, sure

i'd pop him personally if needs be 😛

Their parents should be able to make that choice

exactly

Right so I'm talking about the "should"

If you want to talk about other things, make that clear instead of moving the goalposts

I never moved my goalpost

you just misread my argument and started debating that 😮

And if people argue that the gov should pay to maintain them all. It starts to become arguable why not abort all of them if we could

I didn't say "if he was your child"

we were talking about the right to abort your child

Yes, and I asked about the moral aspect, not legal

there is no moral aspect to abortion

I disagree with you there

No? So right up until birth you should be able to turn it into slurry?

There is, but Natural Selection is way more important imo

I never said that,

theres a difference between right/wrong and morality

No, morality is a value judgement of right and wrong

no its not

Then what is morality?