i'm saying that "we have just a few" is no reason why they should then be sustained at all cost

It's not "doing everything to keep them alive", I'm contesting the idea that they *should* in your words, be aborted

Lets make it simple then, if they can survive on their own, they can live

You don't know that until they do or dont

if i put the fetus out of the womb, and it survives, it can live 😉

You're moving towards absurdities instead of actually addressing the argument

I never said they should be aborted

I said i should have the right to abort my child if I find it will be debilitated in life

god forbid, i'm not pro-eugenics

and no i shouldn't be forced to pay for another who didn't either

No, I said "should Stephen Hawking have been aborted?" With the caveat that his disability could be detected before birth. To which your response was "Pop em"

if he was my child, sure

i'd pop him personally if needs be 😛

Their parents should be able to make that choice

exactly

Right so I'm talking about the "should"

If you want to talk about other things, make that clear instead of moving the goalposts

I never moved my goalpost

you just misread my argument and started debating that 😮

And if people argue that the gov should pay to maintain them all. It starts to become arguable why not abort all of them if we could

I didn't say "if he was your child"

we were talking about the right to abort your child

Yes, and I asked about the moral aspect, not legal

there is no moral aspect to abortion

I disagree with you there

No? So right up until birth you should be able to turn it into slurry?

There is, but Natural Selection is way more important imo

I never said that,

theres a difference between right/wrong and morality

No, morality is a value judgement of right and wrong

no its not

Then what is morality?

Morality is a personal compass to say "i find this acceptable" or not

I find abortion morally acceptable, but still wrong to just do whilley nillely

No, it's not basic acceptability

Muslims find it morally acceptable to rape women who dress provocatively

You can accept something but have it grate against your moral compass

Christians used to find it morally acceptable to kill unbelievers

Wasn't that against the teachings of Jesus?

the bible contradicts itself several times, i'm sure at some point in the book it is against it

You can think something is wrong (same as morally wrong) and still deem it acceptable

Fwiw "morality

NOUN

mass noun

1Principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour."

So wouldn't it be argued that it wasn't moral for them to do so?

They just created their own morality.