Net bad all around

There are cases where they might make sense.

The only use is trying to secure lower tariffs of our own

China, for example, heavily subsidizes heavy metals to corner the global market for political ends.

So you go toe to toe saying "if you can tax me, I'll tax you. Then we'll see who wins"

A tariff on Chinese heavy metals can sometimes makes sense in those cases.

And we subsidize corn and oil.

oil-corn 😉

Much to my annoyance

Not saying misbehavior isn't universal.

Lmao

True

Alright, so that's a fair argument to make. Tariff subsidized industries back to their actually value

I hope the EU and Trump don't end up enemies

It's a dangerous game (how do you know what is the actual value), but is sometimes necessary.

He wants free trade with them

No tarriffs, and all

go sleep Shiv! 😛

I think for actual value you'd look at all the countries not subsidizing and pick the lowest or medium.

Europe isn't going to not see Trump as an enemy. And Trump's game is to play against Europe while not necessarily actually fighting them.

also Europe can't afford to get into a fight with the US

And find out how different the price from the subsidized counties is based off percent

The US can't afford a fight with Europe.

yes it can

We totally can

Define "fight" and "afford"

Europe is bleeding money and power

Isn't the US *protecting* Europe?

You know how much money it would save us and how easy we'd win?

I take fight in a context of economic protectionism and afford as not eating nasty doemstic losses.

If you mean military conflict, sure. But that's not on the menu.

Ooooh

Sorry

tbh the only people we should be tariffing is China to bring them to heel as they've been blantly stealing our intellectual property through hacking and bribery.

Brexit is costing us millions
Putins gas/oil faucet it costing us millions, and will cost billions if he decides to shut the flow
Migrants care causing millions in damages across the EU
Migrants have caused euro-skeptic parties to come to power and start revolting
Greece Portugal Spain and Italy are all doing bankrupt and they need more funding to contain it all

Naw, just pull out of NATO, pull back our military, and just cut military fund by the NATO budge, and the lower base count.

Injecting all that money back into our own economy

NATO maybe. But NATO is a delicate act.

not to mention the lack of productivity from the eastern-Europe countries because they're far behind on technology to compete

Why do you think the EU might have folded so easily

dude EU is weak