Message from @pratel
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It devalues our currency and damages the supplies from foreign markets
Net bad all around
There are cases where they might make sense.
The only use is trying to secure lower tariffs of our own
China, for example, heavily subsidizes heavy metals to corner the global market for political ends.
So you go toe to toe saying "if you can tax me, I'll tax you. Then we'll see who wins"
A tariff on Chinese heavy metals can sometimes makes sense in those cases.
And we subsidize corn and oil.
oil-corn 😉
Much to my annoyance
Not saying misbehavior isn't universal.
Lmao
True
Alright, so that's a fair argument to make. Tariff subsidized industries back to their actually value
I hope the EU and Trump don't end up enemies
It's a dangerous game (how do you know what is the actual value), but is sometimes necessary.
He wants free trade with them
No tarriffs, and all
go sleep Shiv! 😛
I think for actual value you'd look at all the countries not subsidizing and pick the lowest or medium.
Europe isn't going to not see Trump as an enemy. And Trump's game is to play against Europe while not necessarily actually fighting them.
also Europe can't afford to get into a fight with the US
And find out how different the price from the subsidized counties is based off percent
The US can't afford a fight with Europe.
yes it can
We totally can
Define "fight" and "afford"
Europe is bleeding money and power
Isn't the US *protecting* Europe?
You know how much money it would save us and how easy we'd win?
I take fight in a context of economic protectionism and afford as not eating nasty doemstic losses.
If you mean military conflict, sure. But that's not on the menu.
Ooooh
Sorry
tbh the only people we should be tariffing is China to bring them to heel as they've been blantly stealing our intellectual property through hacking and bribery.
Brexit is costing us millions
Putins gas/oil faucet it costing us millions, and will cost billions if he decides to shut the flow
Migrants care causing millions in damages across the EU
Migrants have caused euro-skeptic parties to come to power and start revolting
Greece Portugal Spain and Italy are all doing bankrupt and they need more funding to contain it all
Naw, just pull out of NATO, pull back our military, and just cut military fund by the NATO budge, and the lower base count.
Injecting all that money back into our own economy
NATO maybe. But NATO is a delicate act.
not to mention the lack of productivity from the eastern-Europe countries because they're far behind on technology to compete
Why do you think the EU might have folded so easily