Message from @pratel

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2018-07-25 23:17:59 UTC  

Eh? I guess.

2018-07-25 23:18:13 UTC  

I've got a list of people I'd prefer, but I'm not completely opposed.

2018-07-25 23:18:39 UTC  

I was ok with Syria. You have to stand by your threats if you want to get taken seriously. It didn't escalate.

2018-07-25 23:19:06 UTC  

Syria is a bit of a disaster overall and i's really complicated to get into.

2018-07-25 23:20:29 UTC  

The reset of trade tariffs is a good thing in my opinion. The world is pissed, but that’s because they’re losing some pretty sweet deals.

2018-07-25 23:20:31 UTC  

Valid critisms. Although him not shutting up is bring entertainment. Makes me remember the bush days before Obama.

2018-07-25 23:20:56 UTC  

I agree the outcome is potentially good. But it's worrying.

2018-07-25 23:21:07 UTC  

EU I'm not concerned about, it's china

2018-07-25 23:21:24 UTC  

It’s going to be hard. That’s no lie. It’s going to be a fight.

2018-07-25 23:21:31 UTC  

That's the war I worry that won't end quickly and a lot of damage could be done

2018-07-25 23:21:32 UTC  

To be fair, he might have "won" the trade war with Europe insofar as it's "winnable." I'll have to see what terms there are. It is breaking news.

2018-07-25 23:21:42 UTC  

I saw

2018-07-25 23:22:13 UTC  

But they were most likely to fold. They need our markets too much

2018-07-25 23:22:31 UTC  

If tariffs become more even or Europe quits pouring excess money into certain companies (*cough* Airbus *cough*) I might change my mind.

2018-07-25 23:22:35 UTC  

I don't like tariffs.

2018-07-25 23:22:52 UTC  

And I'm not really sold on "trade deficits" too much either.

2018-07-25 23:22:53 UTC  

No one does

2018-07-25 23:23:11 UTC  

Eh, some do. Tariffs are overall bad, but they can favor certain people.

2018-07-25 23:23:23 UTC  

They can also serve as a corrective to certain forms of improper behavior.

2018-07-25 23:23:38 UTC  

It benefits no one.

2018-07-25 23:23:48 UTC  

But on the net, they tend to be bad, especially if you're going at people who aren't really misbehaving.

2018-07-25 23:23:52 UTC  

I’d be fine with none, but we can only do that if everyone is open like that.

2018-07-25 23:24:00 UTC  

It devalues our currency and damages the supplies from foreign markets

2018-07-25 23:24:04 UTC  

Net bad all around

2018-07-25 23:24:16 UTC  

There are cases where they might make sense.

2018-07-25 23:24:20 UTC  

The only use is trying to secure lower tariffs of our own

2018-07-25 23:24:37 UTC  

China, for example, heavily subsidizes heavy metals to corner the global market for political ends.

2018-07-25 23:24:53 UTC  

So you go toe to toe saying "if you can tax me, I'll tax you. Then we'll see who wins"

2018-07-25 23:25:01 UTC  

A tariff on Chinese heavy metals can sometimes makes sense in those cases.

2018-07-25 23:25:18 UTC  

And we subsidize corn and oil.

2018-07-25 23:25:27 UTC  

oil-corn 😉

2018-07-25 23:25:31 UTC  

Much to my annoyance

2018-07-25 23:25:37 UTC  

Not saying misbehavior isn't universal.

2018-07-25 23:25:42 UTC  

Lmao

2018-07-25 23:25:44 UTC  

True

2018-07-25 23:26:28 UTC  

Alright, so that's a fair argument to make. Tariff subsidized industries back to their actually value

2018-07-25 23:26:48 UTC  

I hope the EU and Trump don't end up enemies

2018-07-25 23:26:56 UTC  

It's a dangerous game (how do you know what is the actual value), but is sometimes necessary.

2018-07-25 23:27:00 UTC  

He wants free trade with them

2018-07-25 23:27:19 UTC  

No tarriffs, and all

2018-07-25 23:27:30 UTC  

go sleep Shiv! 😛