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bitch you still gotta escape your own diapers, let alone travel half the world to come get me
Semantics are a bitch yes?
they are
They're a WHORE
Theres difference there, but subjective as hell
the difference is how one would interprate it
This is the kind of situation where newspeak would be nice
substantial = 75% or more imo
Statism does not define how much controll. Only the fact that the govt has some control over some aspects
^ substantial
That can include stuff like protectionism, defense, law enforcement
yes, hence
Socialism is a FORM of statism
That doesn't mean every case of Statism is Socialism
no
no nononononon
Socialism is a very very very extreme if anything, and even then id call it highly incorrect
In socialism, the government OWNS everything
Statism does not mean the govt owns stuff
and in statism, the government can CONTROL everything
the difference is in the words at that point
NO MATE
Like I said, industry regulation is a form of statism
You dont have to own the company to dictate what it cant do
And you cant dictate what they have to do
Cuba is socialism
No forcing a factory to produce arms
No forcing a company to give out free shit
Those are socialism
Where the govt owns the factories and can dictate what they have to do
Mirriam-Webster even uses it
can we agree both are bad?
and be doen with this convo
or move it to debate
We already have those
Law enforcement and civil services like millitary, firefighting are both statism
Since the control of both is centralized
yes
Its not like we have mercs patrolling the streets
law enforcement ins not centralized
DIfferent mercs I mean
IF you want non statist stuff