Message from @Beemann

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2018-07-31 18:58:10 UTC  

You are lol

2018-07-31 18:58:30 UTC  

Unless you're talking about people who call JBP a pseudoscientist

2018-07-31 18:58:39 UTC  

which is hilarious

2018-07-31 18:58:41 UTC  

Plenty considering it's harder to get empirical evidence regarding human behavior then it is for hard sciences like.physics

2018-07-31 18:58:43 UTC  

@Vesdii there have been several cases where Shitposting was used as a news-page in the past, just roll with it

2018-07-31 18:58:50 UTC  

Nah a lot of early psych absolutely was pseudoscience

2018-07-31 18:58:55 UTC  

Like Freud

2018-07-31 18:58:59 UTC  

And crackpots like to hide behind psych

2018-07-31 18:59:04 UTC  

Freud was on a lot of shit man

2018-07-31 18:59:04 UTC  

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ONTOLOGY OF FAITH AND THE EPISTEMOLOGY OF EMPIRISISM

2018-07-31 18:59:10 UTC  

Sounds good

2018-07-31 18:59:16 UTC  

Psychology is medicine

Medicine is statistics, not a science

2018-07-31 18:59:18 UTC  

not shitposting

2018-07-31 18:59:20 UTC  

XD

2018-07-31 18:59:38 UTC  

@Vesdii to be honest general is pretty mild

2018-07-31 18:59:38 UTC  

Medicine you can never guarantee the outcome, you can only assume that statistically you get a desired outcome

2018-07-31 18:59:39 UTC  

So.just five people a prescription drug and shove em.out the door

2018-07-31 18:59:39 UTC  

medicine is a science lmao, science is only about predictability

2018-07-31 18:59:42 UTC  

anything else is BS

2018-07-31 18:59:49 UTC  

It's like giving people mainainance

2018-07-31 18:59:52 UTC  

Well that's part of the testing process sadly

2018-07-31 18:59:55 UTC  

Its not a cure all

2018-07-31 18:59:56 UTC  

You can not with absolute certaintly predict medicine Cytos

2018-07-31 18:59:56 UTC  

medicine works 80% of the time? thats pretictable

2018-07-31 19:00:04 UTC  

You try collections of chemicals until one works

2018-07-31 19:00:09 UTC  

Is it permanant?

2018-07-31 19:00:15 UTC  

Sometimes it just makes things worse

2018-07-31 19:00:19 UTC  

can add a couple of factors to make the prediction more or less likely? good science

2018-07-31 19:00:28 UTC  

thats statistics

2018-07-31 19:00:31 UTC  

Because while we understand a lot more about the brain it's still a very complex organ

2018-07-31 19:00:38 UTC  

you dont need an absolute solution for it to be science

2018-07-31 19:01:02 UTC  

If i repeat the same testing of a medicine 10,000 times all the same test i will not get 10,000 times the same outcome

2018-07-31 19:01:03 UTC  

It deals with a whole fuckton of functions and wires get crossed in weird ways

2018-07-31 19:01:07 UTC  

science produces theories of predictability

2018-07-31 19:01:09 UTC  

Sigh I really don't like such mechanical robotic approaches to science

2018-07-31 19:01:31 UTC  

This is why on medicine theres always that disclaimer of "May cause side-effects"

2018-07-31 19:01:32 UTC  

so if it gets 80% the same result, you can sciencefy that in 80% of the time you will get that result

2018-07-31 19:01:45 UTC  

thats not the scientific process though, thats statistics

2018-07-31 19:01:47 UTC  

Like did you know that separation between parts of the brain can "fix" epilepsy? Or that electroshock therapy is useful in cases of extreme depression?

2018-07-31 19:01:48 UTC  

XD sadly you need such an approach to get repeatable, if not 100%, results

2018-07-31 19:02:12 UTC  

Yeah the point ultimately is that we keep testing and iterating