Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-07-31 19:06:11 UTC  

you can test it as often as you like, the point is the result will be the same

2018-07-31 19:06:16 UTC  

imagine if one result was enough, you could make a theory of a result of a cointoss

2018-07-31 19:06:17 UTC  

thats teh scientifc method

2018-07-31 19:06:20 UTC  

Bias doesn't mean "let's believe anything" though

2018-07-31 19:06:32 UTC  

as soon as you make 2 results, it does not become statistics lmao

2018-07-31 19:06:45 UTC  

the point of the scientific method, is that a person can recreate it if they don't believe you,

And every time they do it they'll get the same result

2018-07-31 19:06:52 UTC  

there are tools to seperate yourself from your bias

2018-07-31 19:06:54 UTC  

resultS

2018-07-31 19:06:56 UTC  

Ok ok what i told you guys that panpsychism is becoming more and more academically credible?

2018-07-31 19:07:02 UTC  

even if to only make that bias apparant

2018-07-31 19:07:11 UTC  

so that others may recognise

2018-07-31 19:07:13 UTC  

plural results

2018-07-31 19:07:48 UTC  

You need resultS for the initial testing to confirm it

But anyone who doesn't believe you can run the same test once to see that the original hypothesis is true again

2018-07-31 19:07:56 UTC  

its the whole point, that anyone can recreate the test

2018-07-31 19:08:09 UTC  

I'd ask you for your sources

2018-07-31 19:08:13 UTC  

yes, but just testing it once is not going to prove or disprove anything

2018-07-31 19:08:23 UTC  

if medicine is only 80% accurate

1 out of every 5 tests will yield a different result

So if 50 scientists test it, 10 will have a different result (statistically)

That means that they wont get the same results 20% of the time

2018-07-31 19:08:26 UTC  

and testing things 2 or more times does not make it any less of a science

2018-07-31 19:08:44 UTC  

you can test it to confirm it

thats the whole point of it

2018-07-31 19:08:51 UTC  

If you don't believe it, you can retest it

2018-07-31 19:08:56 UTC  

a billion trilliong gazillion times

2018-07-31 19:09:04 UTC  

Idk if Thomas nagal.is any indication there are plenty who don't want anything other then nautealism to be true

2018-07-31 19:09:06 UTC  

but if the hypothesis is accurate it will yield the same results

2018-07-31 19:09:09 UTC  

only restesting when you dont get the results you want is bad form

2018-07-31 19:09:21 UTC  

in the cointoss experiment you can believe you will get heads, get heads once and not restest

2018-07-31 19:09:28 UTC  

So you're saying we have to test gravity every time we wake up?

2018-07-31 19:09:49 UTC  

im saying we test gravity a bunch of times in different scenarios every day

2018-07-31 19:09:56 UTC  

its predictable how it will behave

2018-07-31 19:09:59 UTC  

aka its science

2018-07-31 19:10:23 UTC  

A scientific theory gets accepted if many MANY people tested it and all got the same conclusion, meaning it has been tested thousands of times


Yet if you DON'T believe it, you can feel free to test it as many times as you want

2018-07-31 19:10:24 UTC  

and if you go into outer space and shit does not always fall the way you expect, then you make a new theory

2018-07-31 19:10:31 UTC  

but it still needs to be predictable

2018-07-31 19:10:36 UTC  

test it once, test it hundreds of times, its gonna be the same

2018-07-31 19:10:42 UTC  

so when you wake up in space you know what might happen

2018-07-31 19:10:51 UTC  

on average

2018-07-31 19:11:12 UTC  

no, thats a conclusion we draw based on tests we confirmed scientifically

2018-07-31 19:11:37 UTC  

@Mallic you mean the philosopher? That doesn't sound like much in the way of evidence to me

2018-07-31 19:12:17 UTC  

Simplified:
If i drop a bottle on earth, i confirm the test of gravity,

Knowing how gravity works, i can ASSUME that if i drop a brick on earth, it will apply the same effect,

If it doesn't, and i drop the brick and it flies off, it proves my hypothesis was wrong

2018-07-31 19:13:03 UTC  

what did you say about medicine again? that it was not science?

2018-07-31 19:13:23 UTC  

its statistics, because i can't predict its endings with certainty

2018-07-31 19:13:38 UTC  

if that is your standard, which you can believe it to be