Message from @>Cytos, de lieve goede synth

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2018-07-31 19:07:13 UTC  

plural results

2018-07-31 19:07:48 UTC  

You need resultS for the initial testing to confirm it

But anyone who doesn't believe you can run the same test once to see that the original hypothesis is true again

2018-07-31 19:07:56 UTC  

its the whole point, that anyone can recreate the test

2018-07-31 19:08:09 UTC  

I'd ask you for your sources

2018-07-31 19:08:13 UTC  

yes, but just testing it once is not going to prove or disprove anything

2018-07-31 19:08:23 UTC  

if medicine is only 80% accurate

1 out of every 5 tests will yield a different result

So if 50 scientists test it, 10 will have a different result (statistically)

That means that they wont get the same results 20% of the time

2018-07-31 19:08:26 UTC  

and testing things 2 or more times does not make it any less of a science

2018-07-31 19:08:44 UTC  

you can test it to confirm it

thats the whole point of it

2018-07-31 19:08:51 UTC  

If you don't believe it, you can retest it

2018-07-31 19:08:56 UTC  

a billion trilliong gazillion times

2018-07-31 19:09:04 UTC  

Idk if Thomas nagal.is any indication there are plenty who don't want anything other then nautealism to be true

2018-07-31 19:09:06 UTC  

but if the hypothesis is accurate it will yield the same results

2018-07-31 19:09:09 UTC  

only restesting when you dont get the results you want is bad form

2018-07-31 19:09:21 UTC  

in the cointoss experiment you can believe you will get heads, get heads once and not restest

2018-07-31 19:09:28 UTC  

So you're saying we have to test gravity every time we wake up?

2018-07-31 19:09:49 UTC  

im saying we test gravity a bunch of times in different scenarios every day

2018-07-31 19:09:56 UTC  

its predictable how it will behave

2018-07-31 19:09:59 UTC  

aka its science

2018-07-31 19:10:23 UTC  

A scientific theory gets accepted if many MANY people tested it and all got the same conclusion, meaning it has been tested thousands of times


Yet if you DON'T believe it, you can feel free to test it as many times as you want

2018-07-31 19:10:24 UTC  

and if you go into outer space and shit does not always fall the way you expect, then you make a new theory

2018-07-31 19:10:31 UTC  

but it still needs to be predictable

2018-07-31 19:10:36 UTC  

test it once, test it hundreds of times, its gonna be the same

2018-07-31 19:10:42 UTC  

so when you wake up in space you know what might happen

2018-07-31 19:10:51 UTC  

on average

2018-07-31 19:11:12 UTC  

no, thats a conclusion we draw based on tests we confirmed scientifically

2018-07-31 19:11:37 UTC  

@Mallic you mean the philosopher? That doesn't sound like much in the way of evidence to me

2018-07-31 19:12:17 UTC  

Simplified:
If i drop a bottle on earth, i confirm the test of gravity,

Knowing how gravity works, i can ASSUME that if i drop a brick on earth, it will apply the same effect,

If it doesn't, and i drop the brick and it flies off, it proves my hypothesis was wrong

2018-07-31 19:13:03 UTC  

what did you say about medicine again? that it was not science?

2018-07-31 19:13:23 UTC  

its statistics, because i can't predict its endings with certainty

2018-07-31 19:13:38 UTC  

if that is your standard, which you can believe it to be

2018-07-31 19:13:44 UTC  

then only math is a science

2018-07-31 19:13:52 UTC  

and physics and chemistry

2018-07-31 19:13:55 UTC  

nope

2018-07-31 19:13:58 UTC  

yes it is

2018-07-31 19:14:01 UTC  

quantum is 100% unpredictable

2018-07-31 19:14:06 UTC  

Medical sciences are just physics and chemistry

2018-07-31 19:14:07 UTC  

thats physics out of the way

2018-07-31 19:14:14 UTC  

which chemistry is based on

2018-07-31 19:14:14 UTC  

Physics and chemistry are just math

2018-07-31 19:14:47 UTC  

so cuz quantum physics is unpredictable

Physics is unpredictable?

2018-07-31 19:14:51 UTC  

you can predict with certainty that if you do the quantum experiment infinite times, half of the results will be spin one way, and the other hald spin in the other way