Message from @JULZIFICATOR

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2018-07-31 19:01:07 UTC  

science produces theories of predictability

2018-07-31 19:01:09 UTC  

Sigh I really don't like such mechanical robotic approaches to science

2018-07-31 19:01:31 UTC  

This is why on medicine theres always that disclaimer of "May cause side-effects"

2018-07-31 19:01:32 UTC  

so if it gets 80% the same result, you can sciencefy that in 80% of the time you will get that result

2018-07-31 19:01:45 UTC  

thats not the scientific process though, thats statistics

2018-07-31 19:01:47 UTC  

Like did you know that separation between parts of the brain can "fix" epilepsy? Or that electroshock therapy is useful in cases of extreme depression?

2018-07-31 19:01:48 UTC  

XD sadly you need such an approach to get repeatable, if not 100%, results

2018-07-31 19:02:12 UTC  

Yeah the point ultimately is that we keep testing and iterating

2018-07-31 19:02:15 UTC  

Is this why certain circles hate rupert sheldrake so much?

2018-07-31 19:02:19 UTC  

XD just ask tesla

2018-07-31 19:02:22 UTC  

Nobody iterates on "it's magic"

2018-07-31 19:02:22 UTC  

Scientific process is, you make a hypothesis

And every single time i test it (bar wrongful anomalies) i will get the exact same outcome as your hypothesis prescribes

2018-07-31 19:02:25 UTC  

im sure he was mad depressed

2018-07-31 19:02:31 UTC  

and was electrocuting himself

2018-07-31 19:02:40 UTC  

as a treatment

2018-07-31 19:03:03 UTC  

That's not a treatment that's a fetish

2018-07-31 19:03:14 UTC  

hey if it worked

2018-07-31 19:03:17 UTC  

principles and procedures for the systematic pursuit of knowledge involving the recognition and formulation of a problem, the collection of data through observation and experiment, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses

2018-07-31 19:03:23 UTC  

i mean fuck he lost everything and died pennyless

2018-07-31 19:03:28 UTC  

there is nothing in that definition about absolute predictive capacity

2018-07-31 19:03:49 UTC  

did not seem like he was to traumatised about it till after he stopped shocking himself daily due to losing hsi equipment

2018-07-31 19:04:08 UTC  

if something was only science when you can prove what will happen 100% of the time, the only thing that maybe could be science is math

2018-07-31 19:04:10 UTC  

MAYBE

2018-07-31 19:04:14 UTC  

there has to be, else I can just say "i scientificaly predict that the Earth will blow up in 10 seconds"

And when it doesn't i said "Oh well, it doesn't have to be predictable, so its still a sciencE"

2018-07-31 19:04:24 UTC  

i mean there is a fundamentals issue there but whatever

2018-07-31 19:04:31 UTC  

Also probably because "telepathy" is bunk, @Mallic

2018-07-31 19:04:52 UTC  

@Mallic Really, if you want to fight Nihilism, if you want to give your life a purpose, just consider family members and friends that you remember fondly that aren't here anymore. Think about the effect that they had on your life. Quit worrying over the destination, and focus on the journey. Even if the future were to not matter in the grand scheme of the universe, even if we're unimportant specks, we don't live on a Universal scale, We live on an insignificant blue spec. And everything here matters to us. Any chance we have of figuring it all out comes in pushing the human race forward. Our impact goes beyond our lives.

Now I think I'm done trying to be inspirational for the day, I've got work to do.

2018-07-31 19:05:19 UTC  

No, science works everywhere like this,

The whole point of science is that anyone can test it using the same parameters and limits, in the same physical universe, will get the same result,
It can be peer-reviewed

2018-07-31 19:05:25 UTC  

insignificant blue spec: <:VeRiFiEd:463064374236413962>

2018-07-31 19:05:29 UTC  

There has been, for years, a bounty on any supernatural phenomena, wherein proof of psychic powers will net you a monetary prize. Nobody has ever won

2018-07-31 19:05:35 UTC  

the same resultS

2018-07-31 19:05:39 UTC  

plural

2018-07-31 19:05:41 UTC  

on average

2018-07-31 19:05:55 UTC  

The.problem is assuming that peep aren't biased in peer reviewa

2018-07-31 19:05:56 UTC  

you cant just test a thing once and be done with it

2018-07-31 19:06:04 UTC  

gotta test it a thousand times may not be enough

2018-07-31 19:06:11 UTC  

you can test it as often as you like, the point is the result will be the same

2018-07-31 19:06:16 UTC  

imagine if one result was enough, you could make a theory of a result of a cointoss

2018-07-31 19:06:17 UTC  

thats teh scientifc method

2018-07-31 19:06:20 UTC  

Bias doesn't mean "let's believe anything" though

2018-07-31 19:06:32 UTC  

as soon as you make 2 results, it does not become statistics lmao