Message from @JULZIFICATOR
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"its statistics, because i can't predict its endings with certainty"
Why isnt physics a science? Because you can't say a 10k drop will kill for certain
yes <- to Cytos
also
"medicine is statistics, not science"
paraphrasing
Why aren't physics or chemistry science? Because as far as we're aware there exists inherent randomization within the universe
those are sciences
On what basis?
you are dismissing the randomness of quantum again, which you can not predict what the spin will be
the fact you can reliably predict the outcome when you set detailed parameters
you can not on medicine
When you set detailed parameters you can
But the real world is not known, detailed parameters
okay just to set thigns straight
when talking about randomness and predictability in science
I want you to take a gun to a range and fire 10 shots with 0 spread in your groupings. Just use physics m8
If you can't do it, it's not a science
on the contrary, if you can't do it, you can set it as a basis for science that it can't be done (barring the infinite numbers argument)
the term "random" is jsut the coloquial term for stochasticy
You can't fire 10 shots on target exactly in a vacuum using a machine because you couldnt do it IRL in your meat body?
meat machines on mars
Sigh I think i made a mistake coming here...i forgot that however open minded this place is still slanted toward secular naturalism...so all that happened is that I wasted everyone's time sounding as far as they are concerned a complete idiot
Sorry
oof
you can do it on target in a vacuum in zero g
(true zero g)
you want a complete spread of all beliefs for you to want to be somewhere?
thats gay
secular naturalism
What's wrong with that?
you will never get that
I didn't realize I was a secular naturalist
nah i think its a "you don't agree with me so i'm leaving" thing Cytos
Right and that doesn't change the fact that you're only going to get a % success rate in a real world scenario
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I mean, you're absolutely welcome here if you want to stay.
The fact that you're calling evidence a form of bias doesn't reflect well tbh
Like we can discuss how that study isn't proof at all
I can find middle ground