Message from @d3adlyz3bra

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2018-08-06 16:04:23 UTC  

well, maybe spotify

2018-08-06 16:04:26 UTC  

It's also not so much about him being banned, but banned by all those different companies at once

2018-08-06 16:04:29 UTC  

i highly doubt any of the companies are going anywhere from this

2018-08-06 16:04:44 UTC  

depends on each companies reasoning for banning him

2018-08-06 16:04:53 UTC  

fb has a valid reason to ban him

2018-08-06 16:04:53 UTC  

For all we know, its either automated due to mass flagging

2018-08-06 16:05:14 UTC  

Problem is, if that is valid, why havent they banned the other sites that say worse.

2018-08-06 16:05:26 UTC  

Sure, if its valid, ban IW

2018-08-06 16:05:39 UTC  

But if its being enforced selectively, now thats a problem

2018-08-06 16:05:47 UTC  

You either ban none or ban them all

2018-08-06 16:05:48 UTC  

Apple also has a valid reason. They all implemented "hate speech" policies to their platform

2018-08-06 16:06:19 UTC  

ToS are dangerous

2018-08-06 16:06:34 UTC  

and they have the right to ban whoever cuz the platforms are not public domain meaning free speech doesnt apply to them.

2018-08-06 16:06:34 UTC  

there are companies who update their ToS just to ban someone

2018-08-06 16:06:35 UTC  

Its.. also a contractual agreement made between two parties

2018-08-06 16:06:49 UTC  

I.. dont think his banning is the issue here.

2018-08-06 16:06:55 UTC  

lookin at you wizards

2018-08-06 16:06:59 UTC  

The issue is why other offenders are not being banned

2018-08-06 16:07:11 UTC  

because they arent as big as him....

2018-08-06 16:07:14 UTC  

The selective enforcement

2018-08-06 16:07:19 UTC  

and in such a huge spotlight

2018-08-06 16:07:38 UTC  

technically once you get so big, selective enforcement is your only way to go

2018-08-06 16:07:43 UTC  

because you require people to report

2018-08-06 16:07:45 UTC  

Then wouldnt that make the idea that it was a mass flag campaign more valid.

2018-08-06 16:07:47 UTC  

all these platforms are private companies and have the right to kick whoever they want off their platforms.

2018-08-06 16:07:47 UTC  

but people abuse the system

2018-08-06 16:07:57 UTC  

moderating is a clusterfuck

2018-08-06 16:08:10 UTC  

That private company defense ceases to work when they want to be a public utility.

2018-08-06 16:08:14 UTC  

there is no way to not selectively enforce things outside of out right ban anyone just off one report

2018-08-06 16:08:21 UTC  

and then you end up with no users

2018-08-06 16:08:34 UTC  

or so many alts there is no point in moderating

2018-08-06 16:08:36 UTC  

And its most likely not something automated.

2018-08-06 16:08:47 UTC  

doesnt make them a public forum still meaning free speech doesnt apply to them

2018-08-06 16:09:01 UTC  

it can be automated to a point, i.e. enough flags over the course of x time for x reason

2018-08-06 16:09:37 UTC  

Didnt tim say that youtube or facebook was using infowars as a trusted form for news

2018-08-06 16:09:38 UTC  

i don't think any of those companies want to be a public utility

2018-08-06 16:09:42 UTC  

do the ToS even define hate speech? Who is next?

2018-08-06 16:09:50 UTC  

not unless they want to be regulated to hell and back

2018-08-06 16:10:34 UTC  

A big account being deleted needs to be signed off 100% sure

2018-08-06 16:10:47 UTC  

And probably should. Companies also know they make more money enabling this

2018-08-06 16:10:55 UTC  

given the fact recent regulations have already started attacking them where it hurts, their pockets and user data collection, i doubt they would want to be public utilities