Message from @zutt

Discord ID: 480817317584961536


2018-08-19 19:11:43 UTC  

😉

2018-08-19 19:12:56 UTC  

I have something

2018-08-19 19:13:01 UTC  

Its called standards

2018-08-19 19:13:08 UTC  

You guys dont understand!

2018-08-19 19:13:13 UTC  

And dignity

2018-08-19 19:13:19 UTC  

Its their time now !

2018-08-19 19:13:25 UTC  

Gamers are dead

2018-08-19 19:13:40 UTC  

Games are progressive art form

2018-08-19 19:13:53 UTC  

And tool to correct history of mankind

2018-08-19 19:14:01 UTC  

😀

2018-08-19 19:14:04 UTC  

I used to think games were art

2018-08-19 19:14:18 UTC  

Some are imo

2018-08-19 19:14:18 UTC  

but the art-snob people made me step away from that notion

2018-08-19 19:14:24 UTC  

well

2018-08-19 19:14:47 UTC  

My stance on it, Games can be art, just like any art form

Not every painting is a work of art

2018-08-19 19:15:16 UTC  

fuck it, theres a market for all of it

2018-08-19 19:15:36 UTC  

Art is made by the quality and feeling you get from the object in question

2018-08-19 19:15:57 UTC  

art can be whatever you say art is though

2018-08-19 19:15:59 UTC  

Imo games are art

2018-08-19 19:16:08 UTC  

But its artform of its own

2018-08-19 19:16:21 UTC  

Since it requires active interaction

2018-08-19 19:16:33 UTC  

And not just passive reception

2018-08-19 19:16:56 UTC  

Nah, i think art has a measurement of appreciation you can get for it,

You can empty your trash-can on a canvas, give it some pretentious name and call art

2018-08-19 19:17:06 UTC  

but its all just rash

2018-08-19 19:17:39 UTC  

a game requires a bit of effort though, it needs to compile at least

2018-08-19 19:17:46 UTC  

trashy art yes, but it can still be considered art

2018-08-19 19:17:53 UTC  

life is art

2018-08-19 19:17:58 UTC  

Only to the people pretentious enough to label it art

2018-08-19 19:18:02 UTC  

ok then

2018-08-19 19:18:16 UTC  

Sand can be considered food, since you can swallow it

2018-08-19 19:18:18 UTC  

it is just pretentious art

2018-08-19 19:18:28 UTC  

and its hard to create the assets for a game if you're not good at design, unless you're making a text based game or very simple asssets

2018-08-19 19:18:33 UTC  

not all art has to be good or have value

2018-08-19 19:18:36 UTC  

art is expression

2018-08-19 19:19:28 UTC  

art being expression is a thing exactly for such pretentiousness,

A fart is an expression of my bowels, that doesn't make it art :P

My point is, that if you can just label anything art, then nothing is art, because everything is

2018-08-19 19:19:56 UTC  

is there an example of a game that is like throwing trash on a canvas?

2018-08-19 19:20:05 UTC  

I think my problem with "games are art" is that it causes people to often look down upon games that aren't trying to have a higher-level meaning and just be games. They'll say Gone Home is art but something like Quake or Doom is "just a game".

2018-08-19 19:20:08 UTC  

i think its actually *more* pretentious to limit what you can call art, so let's just agree to disagree

2018-08-19 19:20:17 UTC  

I'm ok calling anythign art

2018-08-19 19:20:21 UTC  

same as speech

2018-08-19 19:20:24 UTC  

Yes lots of games are like that lol