herregud!

that is literally insane about MN

in sweden, they have loaded up on "refugees" and created ghettoes for them. completely unaware of the irony

but that's already well known.

my theory is that socialist countries by nature cannot produce enough value, so they are forced to borrow money from world banks, and the world banks use the population to determine how much can be borrowed.

and it costs much more to be white, so white people choose not to reproduce until they have a nest egg that may or may not come.

many choose to be gay or use birth control, leading to predictable results

right, the state is their god. idolatry.

I have investigated hinduism, and prior to my doing so, I thought they were idol worshippers, but it is my finding that they are ultimately monotheistic but God in all his glory is literally too overwhelming and terrible to even conceive of, so they reach him through one or more of his qualities.

I believe in the legitimacy of the spiritual testimony of their sages. not that i disagree with the hebrew tradition, but i think something about sanskrit is nice and clear in contrast with aramaic, that would be my supposition.

how could we even begin to describe God or his works? I think there is room around the fire.

well, as long as the person knows that there is one God, that to me would be the most important. but if it is true, they will find out someday!

yes, absitively

will you take a moment to look at one small passage where Krishna deliniates the differences between a Godly and a Demonaic being?

take a look here one second while i find the passage https://krishna.org/the-homosexual-appetite-of-a-man-for-another-man-is-demoniac/

mind you, I'm not a "hare krishna" member or anything like that.

hare krishna to me translates to something like "hail Christ" in Christianity terms

"The Supreme Divine Personality said: O scion of Bharat, these are the saintly virtues of those endowed with a divine nature—fearlessness, purity of mind, steadfastness in spiritual knowledge, charity, control of the senses, performance of sacrifice, study of the sacred books, austerity, and straightforwardness; non-violence, truthfulness, absence of anger, renunciation, peacefulness, restraint from fault-finding, compassion toward all living beings, absence of covetousness, gentleness, modesty, and lack of fickleness; vigor, forgiveness, fortitude, cleanliness, bearing enmity toward none, and absence of vanity. "

and the Demonic nature:

"O Parth, the qualities of those who possess a demoniac nature are hypocrisy, arrogance, conceit, anger, harshness, and ignorance.The divine qualities lead to liberation, while the demoniac qualities are the cause for a continuing destiny of bondage. Grieve not, O Arjun, as you were born with saintly virtues. There are two kinds of beings in this world—those endowed with a divine nature and those possessing a demoniac nature. I have described the divine qualities in detail, O Arjun. Now hear from me about the demoniac nature. Those possessing a demoniac nature do not comprehend what actions are proper and what are improper. Hence, they possess neither purity, nor good conduct, nor even truthfulness. They say, “The world is without absolute truth, without any basis (for moral order), and without a God (who has created or is controlling it). It is created from the combination of the two sexes, and has no purpose other than sexual gratification.Holding fast to such views, these misdirected souls, with small intellect and cruel actions, arise as enemies of the world threatening its destruction.Harboring insatiable lust, full of hypocrisy, pride and arrogance, the demoniac cling to their false tenets. Thus illusioned, they are attracted to the impermanent and work with impure resolve. They are obsessed with endless anxieties that end only with death. Still, they maintain with complete assurance that gratification of desires and accumulation of wealth is the highest purpose of life. " https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/16

this comes from times contemporary with the life of Jesus or perhaps 500 years before

Jesse says it's a battle between good and evil, and it's right in line with these dare i say self evident truths.

Krishna killed demons and kicked atheist butt. He said the atheists must be defeated due to unwanted progeny, and this was BC times

well without morals they will have a lot of unwanted kids.

i agree. i was mainly thinking of the erm... heathens

i guess i meant 2500 years ago

but pulling out and all that stuff doesn't solve the problem of losing the respect of the woman

i mean today

you do mean pulled pork sammiches right?

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there went my pignity

I definitely have no bidness discussing doctrine, i don't even hardly know what it means!

Sar is your man.

For me, the Bible has always seemed a bit choppy and dense. And reading it is hard because it sounds like it was written by Yoda riding on a galloping camel.

is the answer "I am the way, and the truth and the life"?

The gospel of Jesus Christ would be the written testimony of Matthew Mark Luke and John ?

Or is it a particular sermon?

ok I got it. I did go to Church when I was younger.

The Ten Commandments is good, and forgive thy enemies, love thy neighbor, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, whoever hasn't sinned, cast the first stone,

it's good because God loves us, and he sent Jesus otherwise we would be completely screwed.

We aren't meant to suffer for no reason

It would be irresponsible if God didn't look out for us.

but God is good

the gospel is the infallable word of God I would guess

I told you I was like yeast in the bagel

'cept I believe in God

i didn't even use google yet on your question. I will do that now.

ok Gospel means "good news"

I must admit that I do not intellectually understand the explanation of how Jesus Christ took the sins of mankind on himself by dying on a cross. I think the language is however, full of symbolism that could be revealed over time. I only wish that it didn't sound like esoteric code to me the way it does. That said, I believe that Lord Jesus deserves praise and he showed us the way.

I do understand what it means to accept and testify for the sake of community

Right, I wasn't ready before. I will get to it.

not yet, listening now

amen is a lot like om

yes

https://www.youtube.com/user/zion4131

listening

Thank you @Deleted User

I'm trying to figure out what sin means

The reason I am drawn to the Vedic stuff is that I love God very much, and it seems to me that in Vedanta (a super mega old religious system) God is discussed in fantastic detail. They have a different view on sin I think, but I don't know if they believe original sin. And of original sin, I think that since Jesus Christ in fact paid for that, he would have done it in service to the Creator, irrespective of the need for gratitude of the Created. This quickly moves into the area of intellect, which is always a potential pitfall. One of the points that Christianity makes is that one gets to live forever, and I wonder if this comes as a remedy for the fear of death. I acknowledge my mortality frequently, and I know that when the body dies, consciousness will either vanish, or as promised by the scriptures, the soul continues for some time. Why can't we love God and love Christ, and love Life without desiring to receive any reward or compensation in heaven?

if a masked antifa is rioting and destroying property, it would be good if they were disabled in the act.

i'm not sure that death would be easier than life

i don't think that awareness comes from nowhere

i know that i am not worth wanting, and therefore i am fine if nobody wants me

i dont mean it in a bad way, i just know that i am no good. that's just honesty

well, there's subjectivity for ye

well, the personality that i am in is temporary, it must go at sometime or another, why be too attached to it?

yeah i guess god helps those who helps themselves

I do feel that i am over some sort of hill. That somehow I have gotten in that boat like Frodo did at the end of LOTR.

But Jesse says that we have to realize we are no good etc

I haven't met anybody who can help me, I am normally the one who helps, and it's ok.

But I can't see how anyone else really could help me. Jesse however has done more for me than anyone in a long time, just by his work.

i made this https://archive.org/details/Jesse.Lee.Peterson.Church

this world is mighty complex

Katy Perry may as well be Jean Benet Ramsay as far as I'm concerned

i.e. death faker mind controlled slave

I think they kidnap kids, abuse them and then turn them into robot-like celebrities

true, but then you need pied pipers

maybe the forces of good and evil are like the terminals on a battery

think that was ICP

This is more or less the war of our lifetimes I think it's developing into something quite big

Seems like for quite a long time War has always been something that is done by armies and is happening remotely but now they're ordering delivery or something

It's reminding me of World War II where there was a large-scale thinning of the numbers

I think the worst part about getting money for nothing is that it gives a person who is not producing the power to compel someone else to perform work, which is almost the definition of slavery.

just look at the crown and royalty iconography in poor neighborhoods

a lot of people imagine themselves as some kind of royalty due to literal 'entitlement'

I don't think poverty can be fought by giving someone something for nothing

The Stacey Dash Fallen State was amazing. She is so amazing.

it could mean nothing, but it seems part of everyone's consciousness.

i guess cyanoacrylate and broken glass would be too harsh

I've heard it said that the worst sin is to think about Sin.

It seems that sin does arise in the mind, fed by the light of attention. I'm reading on another tab, paraphrased, that sin is any activity that takes us away from God. "Sin is wrong action. What is action based upon? Thinking. So sin is connected with thinking/thoughts and these thoughts carried out." Just now I think that 'original sin' refers to our division from the knowledge of and our relationship to God our Father, and the reason that Jesus Christ is so important is that he punctuated his existence with his crucifixion, otherwise we may never have heard about him. His becoming a martyr spread his fame and legend when otherwise he would have perhaps faded into obscurity. Back to the point, perhaps the way that he eliminated the original sin for those who believe in him, is that practicing meditation (aka prayer) in order to regain a proper relationship to God the Father. Jesus' life and work therefore delivered his believers unto God consciousness, out of the muck of atheist perdition.

although this sounds like i think i know what i am talking about, i just tried to write something coherent, that's all.

@Deleted User that's too much

I've never read the Koran. Never attracted to it at all. @2:10 tho is right, I've gotten a lot of tears of beauty and profundity from the "Shakespeare" of almost every hindu scripture I've read. What i meant about "god consciousness" is either you are cut off from knowing of God, or you are in the fold.

I'm pretty sure the muslims believe in the Koran is because they will get their head cut off otherwise. not a fan.

In my view, God created it all, his breath breathes everything in and out of existence, his dream is our universe, creates all things, is the ultimate enjoyer of all things, etc. Metaphors aren't sufficient to contain Him. So such a God to me, pre-existed modern religion, so every testament about _that_ God is worth reading. I'm enjoying the video by the way.

awesome video

God pre-existed his descriptions. His works are greater than the attempts to descirbe them besides.

I don't believe that God is subject to time. I do not think it is beyond his power however, to experience time through any being who does experience time, at any point in history or the future, as if it is happening right now. To a person it would seem fantastic, but to God it's probably no big deal.

captioned by me, meme by anon