the axis of rotation of the earth is tilted, so there are periods where the north-/southpole have sunlight during the nights too

if that is not what you believe, what do you believe then?

evidence? please

do you have evidence?

I'd say most of it

yea

I dont see the evidence yet

movement is relative, so you'd need something to compare it with, and in this case you'd have to use the other planets or the sun

the earth isnt moving relative to itself, because thats like saying you arent moving when you're walking, because you're only comparing you to yourself

*relative to itself, yes*
*relative to the rest of the universe, no*

imagine you have three cars, one is standing still, one drives at 10mph, and one at 20mph
relative from the 10mph car, the 0mph car is moving with -10mph, so yea, movement is relative

that would mean that you have a huge coordinate grid of the entire universe, which doesnt exist

you cant speak about absolute movement on that scale

define real space please

how

you cant tell the speed if you only have one object, you need to have something to compare it with

yes, its moving with 10mph, relative to the surface of the earth

if you're running on a treadmill, you're not moving relative to the surface of the earth, but you are moving relative to the conveyor belt

relative to the surface of the earth, yea, the earth doesnt move, because you cant tell the speed if you're only comparing something to itself

if you were floating through space, without anything around you, would you be able to tell if you were moving or not?

then what is that void between the earth, sun, planets and other objects out there?

then where are the sun, planets and other objects out there?

they're not on the earth

they're above it

in the sky? explain why they dont fall down and crash into the earth please

so you cant provide any evidence or explanations?

in that case I think my arguments are more valid, because I did have explanations

I'd like to hear the story you believe, not some weird fictional story

then give me the science

I prefer science too

sure

thats partially correct, we havent proven that they are *in* the sky

I think they're way higher than that

ok, agreed

the brightest object is the sun, I'm sure about that
red/green flashy things are planes, I'm sure about that too
the moon is the moon, I think everyone can recognise the moon
small glowing dots that arent moving (not visible at least) are starts
small glowing dots that *are* moving are satellites, and they can be visible with the naked eye if there isnt too much light pollution
and the brightest of those satellites is the ISS, that one is brighter than most stars

and bright fast moving objects that quickly vanish are asteroids crashing into the atmosphere

label? hmm, I'd say identify

can you prove to me that those things arent what I just "labelled" them?

no, the sun is a definition

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/sun

```
Sun
1. (often initial capital letter) the star that is the central body of the solar system, around which the planets revolve and from which they receive light and heat: its mean distance from the earth is about 93 million miles (150 million km), its diameter about 864,000 miles (1.4 million km), and its mass about 330,000 times that of the earth; its period of surface rotation is about 26 days at its equator but longer at higher latitudes.
```

that is *the* definition of that glowing orb in the sky

```
2. the sun considered with reference to its position in the sky, its visibility, the season of the year, the time at which or the place where it is seen, etc.
3. a self-luminous heavenly body; star.
```

also definitions of that same glowing orb

people call those smaller lights "suns" too, but *the* sun is that big glowing orb

ok, can you tell me what you think they are?

ok, so you wont have any theories at all, to compare mine with?
hmm, sad

but you do have opinions on theories, correct?

but stories that have been proven by science

"earth is flat" is also just a story, which you believe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

hypothesis is what they call those stories, and then you either prove or debunk the hypothesis

I can have the hypothesis "if I throw a brick out of the window it will float away"
and I can try that by indeed throwing a brick out of the window, and then I'll prove that the hypothesis is wrong, because the brick just falls to the ground

in short: a ball of gas, that is fusing the hydrogen to helium, which results in a lot of heat/light radiation

we've analysed the light that comes from the sun, and compared it to fusion done by humans, on earth, and it was the exact same radiation, so yes, it is indeed doing some form of nuclear fusion

if the radiation from the sun was different than from our experiments, you could prove that it is something else

and thus debunk the hypothesis

I can see that it is a ball/circle from here

we can't reproduce the activity, because that would need a huge gravitational force, which we dont have on earth
but we can smash atoms into eachother to create nuclear fusion

I can see that it is a circle, and combined with the knowledge that gas will always collapse into a ball, I'm pretty sure it it a ball
and we have sent multiple satellites into space, to show that it is a ball

if I show you a ball, how can you tell its a ball, you only see a circle, the front of a ball is a circle

partially correct
the (angular) speed stays the same, but the direction changes