Message from @marten.aap2.0

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2019-12-21 13:40:47 UTC  

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2019-12-21 13:41:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/657940773114740747/flat.jpg

2019-12-21 13:41:54 UTC  

the axis of rotation of the earth is tilted, so there are periods where the north-/southpole have sunlight during the nights too

2019-12-21 13:42:11 UTC  

the earth doesnt move

2019-12-21 13:42:12 UTC  

if that is not what you believe, what do you believe then?

2019-12-21 13:42:16 UTC  

or spinn

2019-12-21 13:42:30 UTC  

evidence? please

2019-12-21 13:42:36 UTC  

earth is flat and doesnt move

2019-12-21 13:42:49 UTC  

do you have evidence?

2019-12-21 13:43:32 UTC  

what do you understand about movement?

2019-12-21 13:43:42 UTC  

I'd say most of it

2019-12-21 13:43:43 UTC  

can movement be detected

2019-12-21 13:43:53 UTC  

yea

2019-12-21 13:44:05 UTC  

I dont see the evidence yet

2019-12-21 13:44:07 UTC  

so how do you detect the movement of the earth

2019-12-21 13:44:47 UTC  

movement is relative, so you'd need something to compare it with, and in this case you'd have to use the other planets or the sun

2019-12-21 13:44:55 UTC  

you cannot, therefore it isnt moving

2019-12-21 13:45:21 UTC  

movement isnt reletive

2019-12-21 13:45:46 UTC  

the earth isnt moving relative to itself, because thats like saying you arent moving when you're walking, because you're only comparing you to yourself

2019-12-21 13:46:05 UTC  

so we agree the earth isnt moving

2019-12-21 13:46:26 UTC  

*relative to itself, yes*
*relative to the rest of the universe, no*

2019-12-21 13:46:53 UTC  

im talking about absolute movement

2019-12-21 13:47:27 UTC  

imagine you have three cars, one is standing still, one drives at 10mph, and one at 20mph
relative from the 10mph car, the 0mph car is moving with -10mph, so yea, movement is relative

2019-12-21 13:47:45 UTC  

no, absolute movement

2019-12-21 13:48:04 UTC  

that would mean that you have a huge coordinate grid of the entire universe, which doesnt exist

2019-12-21 13:48:25 UTC  

you cant speak about absolute movement on that scale

2019-12-21 13:48:25 UTC  

10 mph means 10 mph in real space

2019-12-21 13:48:34 UTC  

define real space please

2019-12-21 13:48:39 UTC  

it can be detected

2019-12-21 13:48:45 UTC  

seen

2019-12-21 13:48:48 UTC  

measured

2019-12-21 13:49:00 UTC  

how

2019-12-21 13:49:19 UTC  

you cant tell the speed if you only have one object, you need to have something to compare it with

2019-12-21 13:49:24 UTC  

so you dont know what a car traveling at 10 mh means

2019-12-21 13:49:40 UTC  

yes, its moving with 10mph, relative to the surface of the earth

2019-12-21 13:50:16 UTC  

and the surface of earth doesnt move

2019-12-21 13:50:50 UTC  

things on erth move but earth doesnt

2019-12-21 13:51:12 UTC  

if you're running on a treadmill, you're not moving relative to the surface of the earth, but you are moving relative to the conveyor belt

2019-12-21 13:51:52 UTC  

relative to the surface of the earth, yea, the earth doesnt move, because you cant tell the speed if you're only comparing something to itself

2019-12-21 13:52:31 UTC  

if you were floating through space, without anything around you, would you be able to tell if you were moving or not?

2019-12-21 13:52:59 UTC  

you tell me, there is no such thing as space in my world