then give me the science

I prefer science too

lets work it out together

sure

so we see things moving in the sky

what are they?

thats partially correct, we havent proven that they are *in* the sky

I think they're way higher than that

great, so we see things up

ok, agreed

what are they

i dont know

the brightest object is the sun, I'm sure about that
red/green flashy things are planes, I'm sure about that too
the moon is the moon, I think everyone can recognise the moon
small glowing dots that arent moving (not visible at least) are starts
small glowing dots that *are* moving are satellites, and they can be visible with the naked eye if there isnt too much light pollution
and the brightest of those satellites is the ISS, that one is brighter than most stars

so youve labeled them

yes i can label them

and bright fast moving objects that quickly vanish are asteroids crashing into the atmosphere

labels are not the thing

label? hmm, I'd say identify

no

the word sun is a label

can you prove to me that those things arent what I just "labelled" them?

im hapy with the labels

no, the sun is a definition

no it isnt

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/sun

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Sun
1. (often initial capital letter) the star that is the central body of the solar system, around which the planets revolve and from which they receive light and heat: its mean distance from the earth is about 93 million miles (150 million km), its diameter about 864,000 miles (1.4 million km), and its mass about 330,000 times that of the earth; its period of surface rotation is about 26 days at its equator but longer at higher latitudes.
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that is a definition

that is *the* definition of that glowing orb in the sky

no its a definition

why is it numbered 1.?

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2. the sun considered with reference to its position in the sky, its visibility, the season of the year, the time at which or the place where it is seen, etc.
3. a self-luminous heavenly body; star.
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also definitions of that same glowing orb

3. a self-luminous heavenly body; star.

so a light up

people call those smaller lights "suns" too, but *the* sun is that big glowing orb

we've established what they are called, not what they are!!!

ok, can you tell me what you think they are?

13:59] chad: what are they
[13:59] chad: i dont know

you have memory or reading problems

we are talking about science not opinion

ok, so you wont have any theories at all, to compare mine with?
hmm, sad