Message from @marten.aap2.0

Discord ID: 657947883924094997


2019-12-21 14:03:25 UTC  

labels are not the thing

2019-12-21 14:03:29 UTC  

label? hmm, I'd say identify

2019-12-21 14:03:33 UTC  

no

2019-12-21 14:04:01 UTC  

the word sun is a label

2019-12-21 14:04:02 UTC  

can you prove to me that those things arent what I just "labelled" them?

2019-12-21 14:04:17 UTC  

im hapy with the labels

2019-12-21 14:04:20 UTC  

no, the sun is a definition

2019-12-21 14:04:25 UTC  

no it isnt

2019-12-21 14:04:51 UTC  

```
Sun
1. (often initial capital letter) the star that is the central body of the solar system, around which the planets revolve and from which they receive light and heat: its mean distance from the earth is about 93 million miles (150 million km), its diameter about 864,000 miles (1.4 million km), and its mass about 330,000 times that of the earth; its period of surface rotation is about 26 days at its equator but longer at higher latitudes.
```

2019-12-21 14:05:14 UTC  

that is a definition

2019-12-21 14:05:38 UTC  

that is *the* definition of that glowing orb in the sky

2019-12-21 14:06:30 UTC  

no its a definition

2019-12-21 14:06:41 UTC  

why is it numbered 1.?

2019-12-21 14:07:11 UTC  

```
2. the sun considered with reference to its position in the sky, its visibility, the season of the year, the time at which or the place where it is seen, etc.
3. a self-luminous heavenly body; star.
```

2019-12-21 14:07:25 UTC  

also definitions of that same glowing orb

2019-12-21 14:07:34 UTC  

3. a self-luminous heavenly body; star.

2019-12-21 14:08:39 UTC  

so a light up

2019-12-21 14:09:09 UTC  

people call those smaller lights "suns" too, but *the* sun is that big glowing orb

2019-12-21 14:09:36 UTC  

we've established what they are called, not what they are!!!

2019-12-21 14:09:59 UTC  

ok, can you tell me what you think they are?

2019-12-21 14:10:18 UTC  

13:59] chad: what are they
[13:59] chad: i dont know

2019-12-21 14:10:30 UTC  

you have memory or reading problems

2019-12-21 14:11:04 UTC  

we are talking about science not opinion

2019-12-21 14:11:52 UTC  

ok, so you wont have any theories at all, to compare mine with?
hmm, sad

2019-12-21 14:12:20 UTC  

an opinion isnt a theory

2019-12-21 14:12:43 UTC  

or science

2019-12-21 14:13:24 UTC  

but you do have opinions on theories, correct?

2019-12-21 14:14:48 UTC  

so weve established you have no science

2019-12-21 14:15:07 UTC  

only stories

2019-12-21 14:15:30 UTC  

but stories that have been proven by science

2019-12-21 14:15:56 UTC  

so the story came first? lol

2019-12-21 14:16:09 UTC  

"earth is flat" is also just a story, which you believe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2019-12-21 14:16:14 UTC  

sounds fishy

2019-12-21 14:16:50 UTC  

hypothesis is what they call those stories, and then you either prove or debunk the hypothesis

2019-12-21 14:17:35 UTC  

how do you prove a hypotesis, im told science doesnt prove things

2019-12-21 14:18:32 UTC  

I can have the hypothesis "if I throw a brick out of the window it will float away"
and I can try that by indeed throwing a brick out of the window, and then I'll prove that the hypothesis is wrong, because the brick just falls to the ground

2019-12-21 14:18:35 UTC  

ok, give me the hyothesis for what the sun is

2019-12-21 14:20:01 UTC  

in short: a ball of gas, that is fusing the hydrogen to helium, which results in a lot of heat/light radiation

2019-12-21 14:20:20 UTC  

how would you falsify this?

2019-12-21 14:21:12 UTC  

we've analysed the light that comes from the sun, and compared it to fusion done by humans, on earth, and it was the exact same radiation, so yes, it is indeed doing some form of nuclear fusion