Message from @marten.aap2.0
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I'd like to hear the story you believe, not some weird fictional story
i dont believe in made up stories
i prefer science
then give me the science
I prefer science too
lets work it out together
sure
so we see things moving in the sky
what are they?
thats partially correct, we havent proven that they are *in* the sky
I think they're way higher than that
great, so we see things up
ok, agreed
what are they
i dont know
the brightest object is the sun, I'm sure about that
red/green flashy things are planes, I'm sure about that too
the moon is the moon, I think everyone can recognise the moon
small glowing dots that arent moving (not visible at least) are starts
small glowing dots that *are* moving are satellites, and they can be visible with the naked eye if there isnt too much light pollution
and the brightest of those satellites is the ISS, that one is brighter than most stars
so youve labeled them
yes i can label them
and bright fast moving objects that quickly vanish are asteroids crashing into the atmosphere
labels are not the thing
no
the word sun is a label
can you prove to me that those things arent what I just "labelled" them?
im hapy with the labels
no, the sun is a definition
no it isnt
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Sun
1. (often initial capital letter) the star that is the central body of the solar system, around which the planets revolve and from which they receive light and heat: its mean distance from the earth is about 93 million miles (150 million km), its diameter about 864,000 miles (1.4 million km), and its mass about 330,000 times that of the earth; its period of surface rotation is about 26 days at its equator but longer at higher latitudes.
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that is a definition
that is *the* definition of that glowing orb in the sky
no its a definition
why is it numbered 1.?
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2. the sun considered with reference to its position in the sky, its visibility, the season of the year, the time at which or the place where it is seen, etc.
3. a self-luminous heavenly body; star.
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also definitions of that same glowing orb
3. a self-luminous heavenly body; star.
so a light up
people call those smaller lights "suns" too, but *the* sun is that big glowing orb
we've established what they are called, not what they are!!!
ok, can you tell me what you think they are?
13:59] chad: what are they
[13:59] chad: i dont know