marxism-leninism is the only realistic way for humanity

some centralisation is efficient

there is an argument to be made that the USSR was overcentralised and in future we should have more regional autonomy

well the economy of the USSR was incredibly successful

industrialised rapidly

and great improvements in conditions

https://voxeu.org/article/russia-s-national-income-war-and-revolution-1913-1928

https://voxeu.org/sites/default/files/image/FromApr2012/Markevichfig1.gif

meant to post just this image but i'll leave the article anyway

what

no

i dont know who that is

https://nintil.com/old_assets/2016/03/26-4.png
as you can see here the USSR growth was better than USA

what about the highway

i don't see how

they built up the industrial sector through planning

i mean sure some gulag labor was used but the vast majority would have been regular labor

what

n4zi is a banned word? cringe.

yes but not for free

they had to trade for them

so what is the point you are trying to make

well then how come a country like india that is rich with resources and human capital did not become superpower

well it is true they had lots of natural resources but then explain how tsarist russia wasn't so powerful in their time

and how modern russia is way less powerful even than russia SFR

you are putting to much emphasis on the US trading with USSR

They would have succeeded even if the US had closed off trade

no they collapsed due to revisionism

wrong. Capitalism was brought back to the USSR and class contradictions led to its fall

Yeltsin's coup was backed by the bourgeoisie

no gorbachev fucked the economy up with his privatisation reforms

i'm a critic of the brezhnev era as well

if they had kept a stalin-era system the USSR would still exist

Khrushchev wrongly assumed that the USSR economy would maintain the same growth as stalin era

in 1991 the USSR held a referendum, the only one they ever had which asked if the USSR should be kept, or abandoned. Overwhelmingly the result was to keep it, and even ukraine voted majority to stay

of course Yeltsin didn't care about the referendum results and destroyed the ussr anyway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Soviet_Union_referendum

81.7% of ukranians voted to stay in USSR

yes they also wanted to change it a little

well there was already some self determination for these regions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast
read

lmao citation needed

stalin never intended any genocide wtf

>inb4 ukranian gov source

source?

.roles

holodomor was a famine not a genocide

holodomor was man made



||BY THE KULAKS||

there was a poor harvest, grain rust, and of course grain hoarding and burning by the kulaks which all caused the famine

~~also stalinist collectivisation was a bit too rapid and the distribution a bit too overcentralised~~

the kulaks were the rich feudal land owners resisting socialism

and they had to go

no they exploited peasant labor

In May 1929, the Sovnarkom issued a decree that formalised the notion of "kulak household" (кулацкое хозяйство). Any of the following defined a kulak:[4][14]

Use of hired labor.
Ownership of a mill, a creamery (маслобойня, "butter-making rig"), other processing equipment, or a complex machine with a motor.
Systematic renting out of agricultural equipment or facilities.
Involvement in trade, money-lending, commercial brokerage, or "other sources of non-labor income".

there is nothing to suggest holodomor was intentional

THE SOURCE GIVEN FOR THAT IS LITERALLY ROBERT CONQUEST

BAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAA

there was a poor harvest and grain rust

and other areas were affected

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Famine_en_URSS_1933.jpg
not just ukraine

ok so perhaps the grain distribution was flawed

and turkmen

and others

there was no racial aspect to this

beria maybe

that was beria

i don't know enough about that

i'll look into it i gues

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/01/12.htm
explain this then

😎

>Nationalist
>Syndicalist
<:thonk:517650135270948864>

bruh

dead ideology

name one large falangist party

i said large

also i gtg now sorry cant debate lmaoa

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/314492285364731915/634911914014539816/athiest.gif

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ok

https://i.imgur.com/AVh8ww4.jpg

X

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMru64G-9-I

X

>unironic jewish conspirancy theory

hey

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

bruh momomoment

this could easily be fake

it almost certainly is

@Romulus White genocide is not happening

I looked around and saw all of the white people in the country

and white people in positions of power

and concluded that in countries where there is a large amount of powerful whites, white genocide would not be commited

surely if white genocide truly was happening there would be forced breeding programs to dilute the white race (like what happened to aboriginals)

but these do not exist

you claim that white people are being replaced and destroyed but there remain plenty of poor 'white' countries that have very few 'non-white' immigrants. The immigration is not a plot by (((them))) but the decisions of millions of individuals to seek a better life in prosperous countries

genocide has to be deliberate

**even if** whites are becoming a smaller segment of the population it doesn't make it a genocide if it's not intentional

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

**NONE OF THESE ARE HAPPENING**

brb