Message from @Fidel Castro

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2019-10-17 08:50:55 UTC  

~~also stalinist collectivisation was a bit too rapid and the distribution a bit too overcentralised~~

2019-10-17 08:51:01 UTC  

than stalin purged them which lead to them retaliating by burning the properties and migrating

2019-10-17 08:51:25 UTC  

the kulaks were the rich feudal land owners resisting socialism

2019-10-17 08:51:29 UTC  

and they had to go

2019-10-17 08:51:41 UTC  

but you would do that to if a few drunk soldiers were going to strip you naked, gun you down and take whats yours

2019-10-17 08:51:50 UTC  

dude, the kulaks were peasants

2019-10-17 08:51:55 UTC  

they were literally peasants

2019-10-17 08:52:09 UTC  

same happened Kazakhstan

2019-10-17 08:52:12 UTC  

no they exploited peasant labor

2019-10-17 08:52:30 UTC  

and many attest to the unfair and ethnic based persecution and distribution of food

2019-10-17 08:52:35 UTC  

no they literally werent

2019-10-17 08:52:39 UTC  

Chechenya should get country or start new war with ruskies, i voluntare to fight Ruskies.

2019-10-17 08:52:43 UTC  

this is revisionist history

2019-10-17 08:52:43 UTC  

<:merchant:474560786522701833>

2019-10-17 08:52:56 UTC  

In May 1929, the Sovnarkom issued a decree that formalised the notion of "kulak household" (кулацкое хозяйство). Any of the following defined a kulak:[4][14]

Use of hired labor.
Ownership of a mill, a creamery (маслобойня, "butter-making rig"), other processing equipment, or a complex machine with a motor.
Systematic renting out of agricultural equipment or facilities.
Involvement in trade, money-lending, commercial brokerage, or "other sources of non-labor income".

2019-10-17 08:53:36 UTC  

Yes, peasants just like they would be considered in the tird reich on in italy or as farmers in united states

2019-10-17 08:53:39 UTC  

<:merchant:474560786522701833> good ruski dead ruski

2019-10-17 08:54:14 UTC  

"During the Russian revolution, the label of kulak was used as an epithet for any peasant who resisted handing over his grain to requisitions from the Bolshevik government.[2] During 1929–1933, Joseph Stalin's all-out campaign to collectivize the peasantry meant that "peasants with a couple of cows or five or six acres more than their neighbors" were labeled kulaks.[3"

2019-10-17 08:54:21 UTC  

there is nothing to suggest holodomor was intentional

2019-10-17 08:54:50 UTC  

THE SOURCE GIVEN FOR THAT IS LITERALLY ROBERT CONQUEST

2019-10-17 08:54:53 UTC  

BAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAA

2019-10-17 08:55:05 UTC  

dude if the bread basket is in ukrain but the food is being delivered to urbanized russians and the ukrainians access to the native production is cut off than thats just genocide

2019-10-17 08:55:16 UTC  

exactly what Church Hill did in india

2019-10-17 08:55:39 UTC  

there was a poor harvest and grain rust

2019-10-17 08:55:45 UTC  

and other areas were affected

2019-10-17 08:55:46 UTC  

man made famines were the people closest to production are cut off from it is genocide

2019-10-17 08:56:08 UTC  

if it was just poor harvest than the ukrainian shouldve been less affected than the russians

2019-10-17 08:56:16 UTC  

since the food was still produced in ukrain

2019-10-17 08:56:26 UTC  

but the vice versa occured

2019-10-17 08:56:40 UTC  

ukrainians were cut off from their native production

2019-10-17 08:56:54 UTC  

and they product of the product was reallocated to russians

2019-10-17 08:56:57 UTC  

no shit

2019-10-17 08:57:02 UTC  

youre not paying attention

2019-10-17 08:57:13 UTC  

or youre ignoring what said

2019-10-17 08:57:28 UTC  

Ukrain was a bread basket

2019-10-17 08:57:42 UTC  

Ukrainians could easily support themselves in food production

2019-10-17 08:57:43 UTC  

ok so perhaps the grain distribution was flawed