Message from @Eoppa
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they think it changes something
when it really doesnt
The church is one of the most important forces in the history of science
well not anymore, Belief in God is unjustified
False
Then provide a reason to believe
Let's take the over 40 cosmological arguments to start
Aquinas had some good ones
oh yea i heard that one
Ive heard all the "what caused the universe" arguments
Its just a modern God in the gaps
It's not an argument about the start of the universe
christians stole things from the muslims <:sniff:591452013682753536>
It's about *here and now*
o you said cosmological so
i thought thats what you meant
Read a book sometime lol
Only like 2 of the cosmological arguments regard that
you literally said "cosmological argument"
cosmology usually references you know
space
Have you ever read a philosophical work?
lmao why would I?
logic is alright, but science tells us much more about the world around us
rather than sitting and pondering about the world, we can make observations and theories that can be tested
Science is truth preserving and relies on metaphysical assumptions that philosophers like Aristotle forged
Do you think empiricism was popular before empiricists?
Well i wouldnt think so
as there was no empiricists
So viewing science so religiously is a philosophical claim, not a brute fact
do you have evidence for God or not
that was my quesiton
View the image I posted
already did
Criticisms?
For the sake of argument, lets say there is a purely actual actualizer
How do you know it is a God?
let alone the Christian God
Well the argument is actually 50 steps