@Bogatyr Bogumir there are many things meant literally, and many meant figuratively in the old testament. In both cases you should take away the moral teachings anyways.

Deuteronomy 21:19

**Deuteronomy 21:19 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<19> then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his town at the gate of that place. ```

Deuteronomy 21:20

**Deuteronomy 21:20 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<20> They shall say to the elders of his town, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard." ```

Deuteronomy 21:21

**Deuteronomy 21:21 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<21> Then all the men of the town shall stone him to death. So you shall purge the evil from your midst; and all Israel will hear, and be afraid. ```

@Eoppa yea...morals

@Riley well yes, this is meant to be taken as literal. A child who is so deep seated in rebellion that he is physically/financially damaging his parents without remorse, back then that would literally tear the nation and family apart. You quote the ceremonial law, which God specified would not fit us today, and pretend it debunks anything

Typical of anti theists

it just doesnt seem very loving or forgiving

@Riley go live in 2000 BC and talk then, otherwise bring relevant philosophy or theology

whats wrong with what i said

I pointed out that the morals of the bible suck ass

more specifically the old T

@Eoppa @Eoppa @Eoppa

lole

You haven't?

oh is stoning kids moral?

I elaborated it would literally tear the nation apart, and you said "so what :("

If the kids hate God, their parents, and refuse any other options

Do you believe morality is subjective?

to a degree, most of our basic morals developed as we evolved

So what metric are you using to say it's immoral?

morals such as not killing our kids

evolved

Actually that is a very common thing in history

So answer my question

but they did it because they felt it was to protect the greater community

Exactly?

they weighed their options

kill a child or the entire community

Like in a council of elders?

wat

You didn't just kill the child

He was put before the council of elders

It was a lengthy process

Not impulsive at all

Did you even read the chapter

Lmao @ unironically reading the b*ble

>not reading the most influential work of literature on the planet