Message from @Eoppa

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2019-08-28 00:58:42 UTC  

Its just a modern God in the gaps

2019-08-28 00:58:53 UTC  

It's not an argument about the start of the universe

2019-08-28 00:59:00 UTC  

christians stole things from the muslims <:sniff:591452013682753536>

2019-08-28 00:59:02 UTC  

It's about *here and now*

2019-08-28 00:59:02 UTC  

o you said cosmological so

2019-08-28 00:59:07 UTC  

i thought thats what you meant

2019-08-28 00:59:19 UTC  

Read a book sometime lol

2019-08-28 00:59:29 UTC  

Only like 2 of the cosmological arguments regard that

2019-08-28 00:59:35 UTC  

you literally said "cosmological argument"

2019-08-28 00:59:39 UTC  

Yes?

2019-08-28 00:59:42 UTC  

cosmology usually references you know

2019-08-28 00:59:43 UTC  

space

2019-08-28 00:59:50 UTC  

Have you ever read a philosophical work?

2019-08-28 01:00:06 UTC  

lmao why would I?

2019-08-28 01:00:16 UTC  

logic is alright, but science tells us much more about the world around us

2019-08-28 01:00:42 UTC  

rather than sitting and pondering about the world, we can make observations and theories that can be tested

2019-08-28 01:00:42 UTC  

Science is truth preserving and relies on metaphysical assumptions that philosophers like Aristotle forged

2019-08-28 01:01:23 UTC  

Do you think empiricism was popular before empiricists?

2019-08-28 01:01:53 UTC  

Well i wouldnt think so

2019-08-28 01:01:57 UTC  

as there was no empiricists

2019-08-28 01:02:30 UTC  

So viewing science so religiously is a philosophical claim, not a brute fact

2019-08-28 01:02:42 UTC  

do you have evidence for God or not

2019-08-28 01:02:44 UTC  

that was my quesiton

2019-08-28 01:02:50 UTC  

View the image I posted

2019-08-28 01:02:54 UTC  

already did

2019-08-28 01:03:01 UTC  

Criticisms?

2019-08-28 01:03:33 UTC  

For the sake of argument, lets say there is a purely actual actualizer

2019-08-28 01:03:37 UTC  

How do you know it is a God?

2019-08-28 01:03:44 UTC  

let alone the Christian God

2019-08-28 01:03:55 UTC  

Well the argument is actually 50 steps

2019-08-28 01:03:55 UTC  

Christian God is hard to debate for ngl

2019-08-28 01:04:11 UTC  

...wonderful

2019-08-28 01:04:20 UTC  

50 steps wth

2019-08-28 01:04:27 UTC  

there are much simpler ways to go about this

2019-08-28 01:04:31 UTC  

Aquinas was big brained I'm telling you

2019-08-28 01:04:49 UTC  

so do you believe in original sin?

2019-08-28 01:05:04 UTC  

P sure aquinas took a few things from his predecessors <:smug:591181720565579807>

2019-08-28 01:05:16 UTC  

Of course I do Addie

2019-08-28 01:05:18 UTC  

if so, please tell me how that came about if genesis is fake news

2019-08-28 01:05:36 UTC  

Perception, the argument is actually Aristotle's yes

2019-08-28 01:05:40 UTC  

He just advanced it