at least that's a fantasy I'd like to imagine

suburban voters could probably be put to excitement by more "normie conservative" type accomplishments like taxes and the such

in what sense

so in that case, how do we motivate the moderates to vote for Rs?

I tell you, if Trump does something big justice-wise, there'll be a lot more trump base voters who will show up to the polls. Campaign ads would be crazy, lot of hype would enter the ring, and that would make it unnecessary for the need to involve libertarians and moderates

the economy slant could be good for moderates

that'd be more of a Trump issue in specific than republican congressional candidates

what would motivate someone to go and vote for the right wing

it really sucks

if the republicans were as enthusiastic to vote for trump's policies as the democrats are to vote against them, we'd have the wall already completely built by now

the fact we even have to make deals is ridiculous

yeah

this is why Trump's gotta mold the GOP

issue is that all that potential may have been squandered after Moore

McConnell has a lot more clout now

in Arizona there'll definitely be a better R than Flake up, but what do we do other than that?

shift the core

make it to where when you think "republican" you think Trump and not Bush/McCain

no amnesty, America First

that kind of thing

with more energy

it's hard to think of an example, really

if Moore won, that kind of person

not just immigration hardliners, which is extremely important, but a care for the US in trade, allowing our interests to be beholden to no other nation

I've heard that angle, not sure if it'll be valid, but it's worth a shot

I think personally Trump set the 'DACA deal' up to fail

yeah I know, I'm focusing more on DACA than the shutdown

Trump's been placing the blame on the inevitable fall of the deal on DACA, where he can frame that as the Dems screwing up

It's like a catch-22, if no deal is made, the Dems couldn't save the Dreamers when the Rs were willing to make a deal, if a deal is made, then a shift in the immigration system will have less legal immigration which will cost Dems, also Trump would get the wall which may make Dems look weak.

I don't know how the average voter would interpret it, but fingers are crossed all things considered

I don't even know if DACA is going to be relevant in 10 months

We'll see about what it does, I hope Trump has a good strategy in mind

oh well

meanwhile thread w/ subject 'fat fuck' has 300 replies

what a shitty website, I swear

quality definitely has been depressed in the last few months

eceleb stuff is interesting to people, getting people in office isn't

from what I gather Kraut got a race realism advocate taken off the internet, then made a discord to dox a bunch of people on the right, it got leaked, then he shut his channel down

skeptic community dies, end of story

anyways, I think getting the people who voted Trump to vote in the midterms is a good way to go, maybe Trump has some kind of justice plot brewing behind the scenes, but I'm not placing all my chips on that

maybe we could shill tax reform to moderates, and it could work, not 100% on that though

yeah it seems like a done and over story, Jim made his last video on it

the debates w/ spencer and sargon are a lot more fresh in terms of eceleb stuff than the kraut story

lemme get on the thread real quicl

that's the nature of /pol/ I guess

no one complains about any of the threads except for ours

it's just so fucking unproductive that it's insane

you'd think that with the amount of shit that gets plastered on this website on a minute to minute basis that no one would have any qualms about a thread dedicated to getting people elected

these people live in a fantasy if they think their little turner diaries race war bullshit will ever fucking happen

if we want to get results, we do it with politics

eh, that'd be much more productive than what we have atm

I just can't get past the amount of pure garbage there is just every second

I used to go there daily because there was nowhere else I'd have this kind of info, but it's just depressing going in there on a common basis because of all the trash

not a big 8chan guy, I haven't really considered it

I know they are when it comes to lefty/pol/

the excuses the shills use on the threads are pathetic

>this isn't for activism it's for lulz xDDDDD

it's like they want society to continue degrading

why do so many people on the alt lite and on /pol/ talk about Austin Petersen

open borders is never someone to vote for

aye and after she gets blumpf and fence impeached she'll be president

5d backgammon

well, I'm gonna go for a while ok

why would anyone bar a complete fucking psychopath want that to happen

I'd rather have my ethnostate done by policy

okay, so you ruin every country on earth, then a civil war happens

don't these people consider the possibility of losing?

then white genocide would happen and sooner than they think

it's just incomprehensible how schizophrenic some of these people are

I mean, that's not always going to end well, if you overdo it, then it's over

look at South Africa ffs

a lot of people on /pol/ think we'll balkanize

they just don't get the American character

I like this place, I want to make it better

Jesus, these people actually do think this is the Turner Diaries

holy shit

they don't get pragmatism and getting to where you want to be steadily

I mean, if it comes to having the guns taken, I'll fight, but I'm not going to fucking cross my fingers for it

@Snickers yeah, there's a nugget of truth in it, but the thing is a lot of them go way too far with it

someone like Jared Taylor is much more appealing than this accelerationist idiocy

I'm pushing to make the demographics better too, I'm not blind, but as for ethnostates where there's strict rules for who is allowed to stay and who gets deported isn't going to realistically happen

I'd say pushing family values back onto families, and having an immigration system similar to pre-'65 is how I'd put us back on track

the media doesn't care about democracy and making voters informed

they're in cahoots with a lot of them, wikileaks showed this

if it happens, but not to make it happen deliberately

there's better ways of going at it

if we had better margins in the house and senate, we'd have a) a wall b) a better immigration policy, literally fixes the country in generations

I just can't figure out why anyone would want this kind of shit unless you do nothing but sit and watch gladiator movies your whole life

it's so cartoony

lmao didn't her dad say the lampshades were something of history or something of that effect?

you've got to be pragmatic, that's how you do it

there's multiple ways you can bring the country back to our favor, not just by setting it on fire

that's like social keynesianism

exactly

RAISE can fix so much shit

more people can look at debates for this kind of stuff which I see on Warski all the time

Trump definitely wants more European immigration, he talked about it on the campaign trail and he reaffirmed it during the daca talks

if someone charismatic could make these kinds of arguments in politics, we could make something work.

There's a lot of young faces on the right, and it's definitely not for any gay classical liberalism or liberalist nonsense

I see a lot of these debates on it, and the comments always see the sense in maintaining the european nature of the US