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2019-04-08 12:22:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2019-04-08 12:25:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It's interesting how they've whitewashed the genocide through the scapegoat of infectious disease.

2019-04-08 12:28:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Just testing out discords chat rooms. You mentioned genocide thought I'd throw out my two cents. I'm assuming this is just typical chatbots or?

2019-04-08 12:30:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You're a historian eh

2019-04-08 12:31:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yea the Americans systematically annihilated the natives, in my mind through superior knowledge of chemistry... which they used to poison the natives to death on a massive scale.

2019-04-08 12:33:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

One of my studies is the history of poison so I've formulated more than a few crazy theories

2019-04-08 12:34:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

But I basically believe that diseases and epidemics can be traced to natural "chemical" causes within the environment. In all cases. Basically the viewpoint of hippocrates and the like.

2019-04-08 12:35:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I believe that civilization turns disease into a mythological construct, for purposes of depopulation.. mostly.

2019-04-08 12:37:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I mean to say that the "common understanding" of disease is made to be false in many ways... most notably as i said in its origin..

2019-04-08 12:38:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

In many cases yes.

2019-04-08 12:38:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

There are of course natural poisonings as well.

2019-04-08 12:38:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

like springs high in arsenic etc

2019-04-08 12:40:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

In the first place they served as a mechanism for the ruling class to regulate population levels. Any symptom generated within the population can be medicalized to become lethal..

2019-04-08 12:40:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The diseases are often generated passively... through pollution of one sort or another.

2019-04-08 12:42:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

oopsy

2019-04-08 12:42:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

i believe in basic medicine such as fixing broken bones and such

2019-04-08 12:43:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

but the majority of pharmacy historically and to the present day is designed in such a way that it will amplify the problems of "disease"...

2019-04-08 12:44:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Couldn't tell ya. And I don't mean to say pharmacy has no practical purpose.

2019-04-08 12:45:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

My focus is epidemical diseases.... ie smallpox the plague etc etc.

2019-04-08 12:46:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

ah sorry

2019-04-08 12:46:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

but they certainly would...

2019-04-08 12:47:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Think about this.. medicine up until 100 years ago was dangerous and increased disease injury and mortality.

2019-04-08 12:47:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Bloodletting and insane dosages of various poisons

2019-04-08 12:48:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

For thousands of years, it FUNCTIONED as a tool of depopulation

2019-04-08 12:48:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

in the common viewpoint this is... accidental

2019-04-08 12:48:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I don't believe it was accidental but rather by design

2019-04-08 12:49:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

My viewpoint is... if medicine HADN'T been lethal I honestly believe civilization wouldn't have surivived. In england for example circa 1800s.... women were popping kids out at 12 and didn't really stop....

2019-04-08 12:50:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

if it wasn't for their "stupidly conceived medicine" i believe there's no way society could have continued without disastrous logistical failure...

2019-04-08 12:51:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Medicine in fact greatly increased the odds that those children would die.

2019-04-08 12:51:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Between venesection and... in the case of the 1800s.... mercury arsenic and antimony were given in doses that border on lethal today.

2019-04-08 12:52:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

bloodletting was a primary form of medicine.... and they would bleed the sick or injured until they fainted

2019-04-08 12:52:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

ah

2019-04-08 12:52:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

because... our species is incredibly resilient

2019-04-08 12:52:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

seriously, it is a fact that their systems of medicine killed and maimed and accomplished no good outside of placebo

2019-04-08 12:53:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the population explosion is a result of enormous changes that occured in the last 200 years.

2019-04-08 12:54:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Medicine was a major factor... but the biggest change was getting rid of bloodletting and dramatically lowering the dosages of some of the poisons they prescribed.

2019-04-08 12:54:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Ie... medicine became significantly less lethal in the last 100 years

2019-04-08 12:54:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

generally speaking

2019-04-08 12:55:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Medicine phased out bloodletting. It fell out of fashion. I believe bloodletting was probably the CORE of regulating population levels from time immemorial.

2019-04-08 12:56:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

however they've developed a more sophisticated system

2019-04-08 12:56:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Depends on the tribe but yea

2019-04-08 12:56:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I'm talking about the civilizations that conquered and such

2019-04-08 12:57:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

took over the world etc

2019-04-08 12:57:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I mean medicine has always existed

2019-04-08 12:57:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

you're talking about vaccines and antibiotics etc

2019-04-08 12:57:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

aye...

2019-04-08 12:58:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

basically the population will always grow pretty much uncontrollably.

2019-04-08 12:58:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

unless there is a system that regulates it

2019-04-08 12:58:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

and so for thousands of years ... out of necessity... systems of population regulation have existed

2019-04-08 12:59:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

one of the primary forms of this is medicine

2019-04-08 12:59:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

historically

2019-04-08 12:59:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I disagree with you there...

2019-04-08 12:59:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Well

2019-04-08 12:59:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Like i said

2019-04-08 12:59:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

lets not say depopulate... regulate...

2019-04-08 13:00:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

ie increase death levels.... i

2019-04-08 13:00:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

decrease birth rates

2019-04-08 13:00:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

etc etc

2019-04-08 13:00:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

large scale thinking

2019-04-08 13:01:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Sure but there still has to be some form of putting the brakes on

2019-04-08 13:02:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I haven't studied its progress through the east much

2019-04-08 13:02:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

but in Europe I know there were real conspiracies to spread it, and the recommended treatments were harmful/lethal

2019-04-08 13:03:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the pope issued proclamations telling people to inhale sewer gas to cure it

2019-04-08 13:03:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

well going back to my original theory...

2019-04-08 13:03:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Not necessarily

2019-04-08 13:04:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

sometimes they want more, sometimes less..

2019-04-08 13:05:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I believe they were thinking fairly long term...

2019-04-08 13:05:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

yes

2019-04-08 13:05:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

it was a major transition and i believe it was designed

2019-04-08 13:06:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the reformation introduced iatrochemistry on a large scale... the foundations of modern medicine

2019-04-08 13:07:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

suddenly everything that came out of a mine could be sold as medicine, because the "tag along" of the reformation was empirical medicine vs worshipping Galen and etc

2019-04-08 13:07:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

which practically speaking meant that they introduced mercury, arsenic, etc etc as primary treatments alongside venesection

2019-04-08 13:09:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Well the black death was just a more extreme form "population regulation"

2019-04-08 13:10:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

sure thang

2019-04-08 13:10:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

lol right

2019-04-08 13:10:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Well thats how we got the rat theory eh

2019-04-08 13:11:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the rats would flee their subterranean dens.... the black death effected animals as well. rats and small mammals were the first to go

2019-04-08 13:11:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

there were actually orchestrated groups who set out to spread plague

2019-04-08 13:12:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

google the book " plague spreading conspiracies in the alps"... its court records

2019-04-08 13:12:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

about a plague by a ranking medical officer to spread plague in order to keep his "plague hospital contract" going

2019-04-08 13:12:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

and etc etc

2019-04-08 13:12:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Hamburger I'll chat wif you in a minute

2019-04-08 13:12:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

gonna munch back in 20

2019-04-08 13:43:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

yo yo

2019-04-08 13:44:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

probably because its a sweet book

2019-04-08 13:44:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

i got another one they charge an obcene amount for now

2019-04-08 13:45:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

a history of human responses to death

2019-04-08 13:45:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

huh its not on there anymore

2019-04-08 13:48:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

are u talkin

2019-04-08 13:48:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

kinda new to discord

2019-04-08 14:45:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Hey sheeple where are you from? America here.

2019-04-08 14:45:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Prussic acid was used in delousing and inhalatoriums were a thing at the time.

2019-04-08 14:55:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.g``ov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/

2019-04-08 14:59:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

n its periodic safety update reports, GSK, the company manufacturing Infanrix hexa, evaluates whether the number of sudden deaths reported after vaccination with their product exceeded the number that could be expected by chance. The clustering of deaths soon after immunisation suggests that the deaths could have been caused by the vaccine.

Furthermore, our analysis shows that the deaths acknowledged in the PSUR 16 have been deleted from the PSUR 19. The observed deaths are spontaneously reported to GSK and are likely to be underestimated. Adding in the deaths deleted from the PSUR 16, there is a statistically significant increased risk of death in the first four days after vaccination, compared to the expected deaths. The manufacturers will need to explain why these deaths were not included in the PSUR 19. The increased risk of death was not communicated to the regulatory authorities or to the health personnel administering this vaccine.

Given the above, it is difficult to understand how the EMA accepted the PSUR 19 at face value. It may be argued that due diligence was not exercised, as a result of which numerous children were unnecessarily exposed to the risk of death.

2019-04-08 16:46:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Anti-vax is not dumb you meany

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