Message from @mixmasterJ

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2019-04-08 12:54:48 UTC  

generally speaking

2019-04-08 12:55:01 UTC  

I don't understand

2019-04-08 12:55:47 UTC  

Medicine phased out bloodletting. It fell out of fashion. I believe bloodletting was probably the CORE of regulating population levels from time immemorial.

2019-04-08 12:56:02 UTC  

however they've developed a more sophisticated system

2019-04-08 12:56:19 UTC  

The Native Americans didn't practice that...

2019-04-08 12:56:32 UTC  

Very Eurocentric of you

2019-04-08 12:56:42 UTC  

Depends on the tribe but yea

2019-04-08 12:56:52 UTC  

Right so
If medicine is used to reduce population, why has the population being going up very quickly since introduction?

2019-04-08 12:56:56 UTC  

I'm talking about the civilizations that conquered and such

2019-04-08 12:57:00 UTC  

took over the world etc

2019-04-08 12:57:16 UTC  

I mean medicine has always existed

2019-04-08 12:57:26 UTC  
2019-04-08 12:57:31 UTC  

So then why did the population grow so quickly during the High Middle Ages?

2019-04-08 12:57:31 UTC  

I mean the modern form

2019-04-08 12:57:34 UTC  

you're talking about vaccines and antibiotics etc

2019-04-08 12:57:43 UTC  

aye...

2019-04-08 12:57:44 UTC  

Food surplus

2019-04-08 12:58:07 UTC  

basically the population will always grow pretty much uncontrollably.

2019-04-08 12:58:18 UTC  

unless there is a system that regulates it

2019-04-08 12:58:47 UTC  

and so for thousands of years ... out of necessity... systems of population regulation have existed

2019-04-08 12:59:08 UTC  

one of the primary forms of this is medicine

2019-04-08 12:59:13 UTC  

historically

2019-04-08 12:59:14 UTC  

Again ruling powers wouldn't wouldn't want to depopulate

2019-04-08 12:59:47 UTC  

I disagree with you there...

2019-04-08 12:59:49 UTC  

Well

2019-04-08 12:59:52 UTC  

Like i said

2019-04-08 12:59:59 UTC  

lets not say depopulate... regulate...

2019-04-08 13:00:09 UTC  

ie increase death levels.... i

2019-04-08 13:00:14 UTC  

decrease birth rates

2019-04-08 13:00:15 UTC  

etc etc

2019-04-08 13:00:18 UTC  

large scale thinking

2019-04-08 13:00:33 UTC  

Highly centralized empires like China also wanted population growth

2019-04-08 13:00:59 UTC  

Their entire system was based on agrarian society

2019-04-08 13:01:16 UTC  

From rice paddy distribution etc

2019-04-08 13:01:34 UTC  

Sure but there still has to be some form of putting the brakes on

2019-04-08 13:01:36 UTC  

And I already repeated myself enough about the High Middle Ages

2019-04-08 13:02:03 UTC  

@mixmasterJ the Black Death only spread to China under the Yuan Dynasty

2019-04-08 13:02:12 UTC  

Not the native centralized dynasties

2019-04-08 13:02:28 UTC  

I haven't studied its progress through the east much

2019-04-08 13:02:37 UTC  

Well you should