Message from @mixmasterJ

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2019-04-08 12:57:00 UTC  

took over the world etc

2019-04-08 12:57:16 UTC  

I mean medicine has always existed

2019-04-08 12:57:26 UTC  
2019-04-08 12:57:31 UTC  

So then why did the population grow so quickly during the High Middle Ages?

2019-04-08 12:57:31 UTC  

I mean the modern form

2019-04-08 12:57:34 UTC  

you're talking about vaccines and antibiotics etc

2019-04-08 12:57:43 UTC  

aye...

2019-04-08 12:57:44 UTC  

Food surplus

2019-04-08 12:58:07 UTC  

basically the population will always grow pretty much uncontrollably.

2019-04-08 12:58:18 UTC  

unless there is a system that regulates it

2019-04-08 12:58:47 UTC  

and so for thousands of years ... out of necessity... systems of population regulation have existed

2019-04-08 12:59:08 UTC  

one of the primary forms of this is medicine

2019-04-08 12:59:13 UTC  

historically

2019-04-08 12:59:14 UTC  

Again ruling powers wouldn't wouldn't want to depopulate

2019-04-08 12:59:47 UTC  

I disagree with you there...

2019-04-08 12:59:49 UTC  

Well

2019-04-08 12:59:52 UTC  

Like i said

2019-04-08 12:59:59 UTC  

lets not say depopulate... regulate...

2019-04-08 13:00:09 UTC  

ie increase death levels.... i

2019-04-08 13:00:14 UTC  

decrease birth rates

2019-04-08 13:00:15 UTC  

etc etc

2019-04-08 13:00:18 UTC  

large scale thinking

2019-04-08 13:00:33 UTC  

Highly centralized empires like China also wanted population growth

2019-04-08 13:00:59 UTC  

Their entire system was based on agrarian society

2019-04-08 13:01:16 UTC  

From rice paddy distribution etc

2019-04-08 13:01:34 UTC  

Sure but there still has to be some form of putting the brakes on

2019-04-08 13:01:36 UTC  

And I already repeated myself enough about the High Middle Ages

2019-04-08 13:02:03 UTC  

@mixmasterJ the Black Death only spread to China under the Yuan Dynasty

2019-04-08 13:02:12 UTC  

Not the native centralized dynasties

2019-04-08 13:02:28 UTC  

I haven't studied its progress through the east much

2019-04-08 13:02:37 UTC  

Well you should

2019-04-08 13:02:55 UTC  

but in Europe I know there were real conspiracies to spread it, and the recommended treatments were harmful/lethal

2019-04-08 13:02:55 UTC  

Because even for a eurocentric idea it falls flat quickly

2019-04-08 13:03:19 UTC  

the pope issued proclamations telling people to inhale sewer gas to cure it

2019-04-08 13:03:20 UTC  

Are you suggesting the Black Death doesn't kill?

2019-04-08 13:03:34 UTC  

well going back to my original theory...

2019-04-08 13:03:41 UTC  

The Pope would want people to live

2019-04-08 13:03:47 UTC  

Not necessarily

2019-04-08 13:03:51 UTC  

Yes

2019-04-08 13:04:06 UTC  

sometimes they want more, sometimes less..