Message from @mixmasterJ
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Fair enough
In history you learn blame games are counterproductive
I’m good at programming, science and maths and that’s about it
Yea the Americans systematically annihilated the natives, in my mind through superior knowledge of chemistry... which they used to poison the natives to death on a massive scale.
I never said my blame has any impact on how I view people
@mixmasterJ the west was a wasteland
And
I doubt it was poison
I’d say there was violence against them and that disease played a big role
Annihilation would be what the Spanish did to the Incas or Aztecs
One of my studies is the history of poison so I've formulated more than a few crazy theories
Their superior farming would have brought their population back up
But the Spanish put an end to that
But I basically believe that diseases and epidemics can be traced to natural "chemical" causes within the environment. In all cases. Basically the viewpoint of hippocrates and the like.
So you don’t believe in disease, basically?
I believe that civilization turns disease into a mythological construct, for purposes of depopulation.. mostly.
That's abiogenesis
What does that have to do with this
Wait what
We have evidence of entire civilizations falling apart before European contact
Such as the Mississippian Civilization
Yeah uh
What are you trying to suggest here by saying “mythological construct”?
I mean to say that the "common understanding" of disease is made to be false in many ways... most notably as i said in its origin..
So you don’t think diseases are natural, but man made?
In many cases yes.
I can disprove your theory easily
There are of course natural poisonings as well.
like springs high in arsenic etc
Why would diseases be created and targeted at their own civilisation, especially diseases that do not work as population control?
In the first place they served as a mechanism for the ruling class to regulate population levels. Any symptom generated within the population can be medicalized to become lethal..
The diseases are often generated passively... through pollution of one sort or another.
The ruling powers of Europe (nobles and the church) would not want to spread the Black Death because the Medieval Warm Period supplied them with a massive labour boost via crop increase. When the Black Death happened all their labor (peasants) was lost and they demanded more pay the labor shifted to towns where the king had more control.
Crumbling feudalism
Right, so explain why anyone can go and try to seek medical help for disease?
Reeee
Mobile why
Alright, @mixmasterJ has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.
oopsy
i believe in basic medicine such as fixing broken bones and such
@mixmasterJ acknowledge my point
But treating disease?
but the majority of pharmacy historically and to the present day is designed in such a way that it will amplify the problems of "disease"...
Right so explain why I could never sleep before getting my sleeping meds?
Couldn't tell ya. And I don't mean to say pharmacy has no practical purpose.