There is no constitutional provision for "emergency powers"

It is functionally just martial law where "If I can get away with this then I can do this - might makes right".

I don't know how many of them have filed "Friend of the Court" documents supporting it. But I believe some have.

I think your speech is pretty hateful, too

Interesting point being, people think those certain Trump supporters are crazy for calling for martial law, but we've been under martial law for months now.

Fortunately most police officers in most places have been smarter than to try to enforce it.

The whole overreaching response from government has always made me think of this quote;

> “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

Ultimately the power lies with state legislatures in certification, electors in casting votes, and Congressmen in counting them.

It seems to me that the SCOTUS case is just granting legislatures and congressmen legitimacy so they're confident enough to do what they probably already know they should.

Frankly I think the GA legislature should call an emergency session and meet despite the governor not granting it - if COVID is enough of a crisis to change election rules against the law, then this is enough of a crisis for the GA legislature to meet without the governor's approval.

We're here because people did that with election rules.

Because he wants to hold the power he's seized illegally from the legislature.

Any honest person would want these things to be heard so they could be disproven, at least. And any honest governor would let his legislature meet.

lol, yeah.

Who knows if it'll even appear on Youtube since that policy change

Even Yuri Bezmenov said "most of the indoctrination is done by Americans to other Americans", so, his proposition is not mutually exclusive to "youth does".

And they do

They'd might as well not rule at all if that's their ruling. A court that does nothing with a ruling has no power.

That's... essentially a racial map of the US, heh.

The case mentions that many of the changes made made the elections less secure and more vulnerable to fraud (precisely because the primary ways in which you would find evidence of fraud, such as signature verification, have been removed) - but the case does not rely on any determination of fraud. To say it's about fraud is at best misleading and at worst dishonest.

Have people on the server for R&R really not seen their video on this? Because the R&R video on this last night was really good and laid out exactly what Texas is suing over.

Yes, segregating ballots that came in after 1030 on November 3rd, iirc. That time may be wrong, though, but I'm pretty sure that's the date and what it was.

Instead we got an unproven statement from some PA state official saying "it was less than 10,000 that came in after that time"

I'm arguing this stuff across like 5 different servers and a common theme in at least 3 of them is how full of mockery and insult the "no Fraud" and pro-Biden camp is. And the only reason it's not in one of those severs is that one is just a group of friends I know IRL.

It's a disturbingly common trend.

In last night's stream R&R said that he saw on Twitter that Tim Pool was filing a lawsuit? Anyone have a link to that Tweet? Is he actually or was Tim just saying someone _should_?

I think issue was taken with the fact that they left no proof of that figure and so didn't really comply with the intent (or even full letter? This part in perinthesis is conjecture on my part) of the order?

It sounded to me like they didn't fully deliver what the court asked for, that's what I know about it.

And censor any counter-narrative.

But remember, the side that wants free and open discussion is behind the dictator, apparently, not the side that's accused of rigging elections and attempting to silence anyone who questions them.

I can't, and nobody should forgive Youtube for their absolutely insane new policy.

Boockvar was asked to segregate ballots and did not. If they did, it should be easy for them to prove. But proving a negative is nigh unto impossible so it's fair to ask for the proof to be on the claim that ballots were segregated.

Lol what?

Proving a negative would be trying to prove that ballots weren't segregated.

If you segregated ballots you can easily prove it by saying, "look, here is our segregated ballots and records of it".

Trying to prove that something never happened is... that's the definition of a negative proof.

You don't get to just stick a "not" on the end and pretend the other person has the burden of proof.

Burden of proof is rooted in objective physical reality.

If you segregated ballots there will be a record of it and a paper trail. So provide it.

You cannot realistically expect someone to prove that that paper trail doesn't exist. What are they supposed to do? Sift through all the paperwork in Pennsylvania?

So... yeah, it would be easy to prove for them, so they should prove it, because at the moment, ~~Georgia~~ [Texas] is claiming they didn't.

Texas, derp

You're just being intentionally inflammatory at this point.

Ah, good'ol "Stop and Frisk" Biden

Good'ol Joe "Architect of Civil Asset Forfeiture" Biden.

Yes, I love my "...nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law"-compliant Civil Asset Forfeiture.

How many people have Red Flag laws murdered, now? You know, the policies Biden wants to incentivize across the union where without any due process your home is SWAT'd and if you survive your 2nd Amendment property is confiscated.

But _tHeRe'S nO eViDeNcE!_

I mean, ultimately, that's nothing new. Evidence is evidence by any reasonable definition. If a group of people is determined and set in their view then they'll call anything contradictory "not evidence". I think it's very telling just how many of the cases weren't even heard.

>rejected on laches
>many rejected on grounds of not being the offended party

That's not being heard.

without evidence*

> in any event, are barred by laches,
lol, the laches catch-22 again.

> and are moot, meritless,
so they say

> and dangerous.
It's very dangerous to call speech or allegations dangerous.

> Texas has not suffered harm simply because it dislikes the result of the election
Conjecture on motive [directly contradictory to stated motive], gross.

Apparently so.

>Video evidence isn't proof

Man, it's the OJ case all over again.

"If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit!"

Criminal cases would have to have a much higher bar of evidence than civil.

LOL

Just remember, if he's robbed, video evidence, witnesses, audio recordings, and anomalous activity of the suspects are all "not evidence" in his case.

I love the "oFfIcIaL iNvEsTiGaTiOn" where all the press and GOP workers were told to leave the room and corroborating media reports from the time say the center closed but then they pulled crates of ballots from a hidden spot under a table out to count for hours after everyone was gone.

Love it. I should do one of those late-night "no opposition present" tabulating parties next election if they're so legal and legit.

No honest person can watch that video and say it's not at least highly suspect.

No honest person.

Months of "hey, don't listen to that guy if he calls fraud, okay! Because we totally won't."

LOL

So which is it, were they all present or did they leave?

Like, it's not even a contradiction at all.

You just admitted they left.

If that's how it goes, then I hope to God these states secede. There's no point in talking to people who can cheat, get caught cheating on video, and STILL get away with it. There's no point in playing these games anymore if the other side just cheats their way to victory and there's no recourse.

"conspiracy theory"

The feeling is mutual.

And blue states don't make their own food.

So you keep your money, we'll keep our food, and that'll go well for everyone, right?

Except one of those is a bit more important than the other.

Of course, though, independent government doesn't mean no trade.

California can't even provide their own power.

It's divided among more states.

Also CA produces its food from red areas.

"Stop and Frisk Biden"

"OR OTHERWISE"?

You sure you wanna go that route, buddy?

In the age of WMDs and nuclear powerplants that's something _nobody wins_.

Right. And you don't have to have everyone living under the same set of laws and same pool of over-powered Constitution-infringing agencies to have trade.

Honestly we should just renegotiate the whole Federal Union thing.

Gut a lot of the power from Federal jurisdiction and return it to the states as the 10th Amendment demanded.

It already has happened to some extent in "Sanctuary Cities" and "2A Sanctuaries".

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pipe-bursts-atlanta-arena-causing-hour-delay-processing/story?id=73981348
> Later in the night, Regina Waller, the Fulton County public affairs manager for elections, told ABC News that the election department sent the State Farm Arena absentee ballot counters home at 10:30 p.m. despite earlier intentions to complete processing Tuesday night. Some additional numbers could still come out Tuesday night, but as of now the staff will be back at 8:30 a.m. Wednesday.

Here's [a] contemporary news story about the center closing at 1030.

Yeah. That makes them _more_ reliable, not less. Because they had no motive to say one thing or another.

That's like... the very most bare basics of source integrity. Contemporary and neutral sources that don't even know about a dispute are more reliable than if they come out after a dispute, a month after the event, and say something.

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood, jeez I'm used to everyone arguing the most absurd things, lol.

I legit thought you were arguing against the source for being contemporary.

If that's any indication of the caliber of arguments we have to deal with...

Which is honestly the most terrible and outrageous thing about politics and why me and people like me love Donald Trump so much.

The worst things our country does are usually bipartisan.

So we needed someone that shakes that up and opposes things that neither party opposes.

I checked up on my state reps and congress seats before voting. No blind R-voting for me.

Unfortunately.

Hah, I was just grabbing a link to that: https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/09/transgender-metalhead-satanist-republican-nomination-county-sheriff/

We really are a Union of 50 nation-states.

A California Republican is - I'd guess probably way more liberal than an Alabama Democrat.

That's essentially what Trump is

And that's the problem.

lol

My exact wording, too

I don't know what Canada's politics look like, other than being badly more left than us (and actually relatively sane about short barreled rifles - until just recently I think?), but I do know the GOP needs to stand up for the working-class Americans that the DNC has left behind. Bring our jobs and industry back from China, put America first to stop selling us out to the megacorporations and China, and restore the Constitution.

And make life easier for small companies that have been all but wiped out in the greatest transfer of wealth in human history known as the Covid evisceration of the Constitution.

Oh yeah, in general they're awful, I just thought it was funny because in one very narrow point - short-barreled rifles - they were less restrictive than the US until just recently iirc.

I don't disagree on that.

Frankly if Red Flag laws aren't the line that triggers a revolution then nothing will and all the conservative "we have the 2A to protect from tyranny" means nothing.

Fortunately we did/do have something of a soft revolt with the whole 2A sanctuary thing going on. In many places it means nothing other than posturing. In others it actually carries some force, though.

Wasn't there an armed protest relatively recently that marched through no-gun zones?

I sometimes wonder if a lot of the places that refused to enforce it are places where police knew they'd suffer massive casualties if they tried to commit Red Flag crimes.

"dangerous"

"Ooh, that meme was a little too spicy. Time to have you shot 30 times while you crawl backwards to the police the wrong way like you're Daniel Shaver"

Oklahoma City Bomber