Message from @justkaus
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here it says it counts as alive at 12 weeks
and a person at 20
yea they do have the right to live
> here it says it counts as alive at 12 weeks
@Mr.Respect one paper dosent change the whole discussion. The scientific community is pretty divided on this topic apparently.
But here's my schtick, if and when we decide exactly at what point the fetus becomes alive. Before that abortion is ok, after that, is not
well why do you think its ok
> well why do you think its ok
@Mr.Respect because before it's alive. You aren't taking a life
but it will be
that logic could be used in a lot of topic
and it wouldnt make sense
> but it will be
@Mr.Respect so?
what do you mean so
the only reason its there in the first place is because the people were too lazy to have safe intercourse
Is it alive at that time, no
their fault
no
or
well
we have no clear evidence
> their fault
@Mr.Respect they will suffer for it
But as I said, I am Pro right to live. If you abort before it's alive, you are only destroying human tissue, you are not murdering someone, and that's ok imo
Bro thats like pulling the plug on someone in a coma. Besides, people know the risks of having sex, they should just learn to live with the consequences.
>inb4 "muh rape" and "muh medical emergency"
1: That is a very small minority of abortion cases. That is a case-by-case basis thing.
2: Medical emergencies are also a very small minority of cases, and in most oc those cases, both can be saved.
No, that is absolutely not like pulling the plug on someone on a coma, because the guy in a coma is ALIVE.
I am saying abortion is ok as long as the fetus ISINT alive, cuz otherwise it's murder
And I don't care about risks of sex or rape or emergencies
This is a purely right to life argument
I don’t believe in the sanctity of life
It’s baloney
Hoopla
Fake news
There is not “right to life”
No one had a right to live
And if you think people do, then what about serial killers and rapists? Don’t they have a “right to life”?
Most women don’t find out they are even pregnant until around the end of the first trimester
> No one had a right to live
@NumberOneSilver do you think murder is a crime?
I mean, I’m my country, it is.
Personally? I could care less.
> I mean, I’m my country, it is.
> Personally? I could care less.
@NumberOneSilver so if it were up to you, murder wouldn't be a crime?
It’s a collective decision in a democracy, which I advocate for....
I am indifferent on it.
Personally, I’d kill only if my life were at risk in an “anarcho” situation.
But even a collective has some small rules to get along.
For me, I think killing randomly is stupid and a waste of time....
But if I were in danger, I would have no problem with killing them.
Murder is the unlawful killing.
So I suppose killing without justifiable intent would be against my own rules.
But merely because it’s more if a headache then it’s worth.
Really an indifferent on it
It all depends really
Needlessly killing is against my religion to begin with.
But not killing things itself
Bruh. Do YOU think murder is a crime or not?
I am not asking about society