Yea but you understand peolpe are going to disagree right?

What im saying is the very creatures you are trying to keep in, are probably the most likely to want to run

that's going to have huge geopolitical consequences

This state will be the odd ball, like North Korea, it won't have many highly educated people which means advanced weapons will be limited, sanctions out the ass, and more than likely all manner of covert action to get women out across the border into Free territory like oh...Delaware and Pennsylvania

men around the world would fight this place for free to have a shot at being a hero

Most of them won't have this view

I'm thinking more of the dark side, people that are blood thristy waiting for a legitimate enemy

this is like a dream come true for them, fighting a regime that oppress poor white women just trying to vote

"Your side" would be the side facing that, almost on the same territory, but now with PGMs and all manner of new nasty tricks

Fallujah USA

There would be insurgencies in places like Asheville, which is a great area for one, which is why my doomstead is out there, etc

Which peolpe though you'd have combat vets on both sides, and presumably, the 'other side' woudl have way more numbers

I'm a marine vet, 8 years, I don't think anybody i knew would fight on 'your side' in this situation

certainly not the female marines lol

I follow the alt-right drama. The race war thing would be way easier to sell than the race war+ gender war thing

which is why we saw all that static with some of the alt right ladies and the stormcels like 2 years ago

Nah you missed my point

There wouldn't be a repeal, it would require secession

Only way to get that goal is if you had secession, ther eis no way current USA is going to repeal 19th

Majority of VOTERS didnt' support trump, electoral college win, and even then, he's only a slightly more dramatic standard issue US politician

They certainly don't support him now, either

Nah, trump's main function is to be a lightning rod for tons of hate that his followers will catch. setting them up to be the baddies in the next big dust up

He's not even a conservative by any stretch of the imagination

especially with this shit going on with the Kurds in turkey, I have friends crying abotu it because they served along side the kurds

DOes anybody really think though? i dunno man

I don't think people think he's a conservative, I just think they wanted somebody anti-establishment(at the beginning)

everybody could see he didn't have traditional family values, life long democrat from NYC, no military service yada yad

Trump isn't radical though, that's the problem. He didn't build the wall, etc. I would make trump look like a liberal

Trump is Obama 2.0, Hope and CHange con for rednecks. only issue is whether they can take the ego hit to admit they were wrong

Their desires also won't matter as much as the world becomes multi-polar, so even if they won domestically, they won't be able to control reality the way previous us administrations could

perfect storm for the aging boomer reactionaries

The scary people are not the angry types you are talking about, it's the super cynical types that are doing the cost-benefit analysis on trump versus whomever

You don't think pendulum will swing back the other way for a turn or two?

I expect the most boring administration in history next

Depends on which Dem. Bernie won't increase immigration that much, he cares about labor situation

Warren is purple, so most likely status quo on that front continues, biden is a dark sider, so maybe the most with him

yea but it wont that's whole point of bernie and co. The democrats WIN when they go populist, they lose when they dont

I hate the young turks, but that is one of their best analytical ideas

@Gоd that's only true for the proles

I mean how is Biden in the lead for the dems if that is true. Biden still leading atm

He's the caricature of the eact opposite of that, the guy is almost austically bad socially

radical? who

Biden? he's mr establishment and has been since my birth and im 38 lol

Biden was to Obama what Bush was to Reagan, the controller

There are no radicals running, by Leftist standards. Bernie only seems radical to far right types

KAMALA is a radical LOL you cant be serious

dude are you serious, kamala is like as mainstream as it gets, which is why she has bad numbers compared to peolpe that do mainstream far better

Kamala was literally the wall street candidate until biden decided to get in

the left hates her

As a basic rule of thumb, if they dont have a very strong position for Medicare-for-All, the left dislikes or hate them. Kamala is the poster child for that hatred in leftie analysis

Kamala lost the black vote because of her stance on reparations, she called #ADOS russian bots

American Descendents of Slaves, Black Americans from America versus immigrants from carribean and africa

I'm ADOS, roots to the civil war and prior

Green new deal is nothing concrete, just abstractions, so it's barely a talking point policy wise. Gun control is fairly centrist

I think your filter is off

I would say kamala is one of the most hated on that front, she literally called those blacks into it Russian bots

Green new deal, I dunno, there isn' tmuch concrete there policy wise, just some abstract documents

Economic threat, depends. unlimited growth is ridiculous and in no way feasible

we're already on path with military spending, etc. we alreayd spend trilions on shit that could be considered "anti-economic"

I'm not a greenie, but clearly if planet is uninhabitable, there is no point to much else

I'm a big nuclear power guy

nuclear power + electrified rail and cars

and diesel electric submarines too, with hot swappable batteries

They don't considered nuclear 'clean', but if the goal is 100% renewable by 2030, that's no worse a project than us navy wasting money on EMALS or the variety of canceled projects I know about, which are easily double digit trillions, with nothign to show for it

air craft carriers are already obsolete, could take that money, and probably end up with better ships and green grid

I can't think of any rising stars in the REpublican camp, which is kind of scary

Wall would be ok, I would just order army back on the border, its old job

save money by pulling out of korea and 100 other places

Let the army operate fixed wing planes again, get a bunch of newer broncos or similar, patrol that, cheap as fuck and occassionally some target practice

i'm down to invade everything up to 30 miles south of panama canal as well

nah it aint worth it. those troops are hostages, nothing more than a speed bump, if that

plus korea competes with us in many areas, we are subsidizing our competition, same with taiwan

we joked about those people being 'rear ward deployed' instead of forward deploed

The western hemisphere is our domain, it's the best and the cheapest to hold on to

Our deployments in Asia I'm fairly convinced are part of a strategy to weaken us that goes back to the 1920s and the washington naval conference

that one reply "This is why the left fears 2A". do they realize it cuts both ways? historically speaking, leftists guerillas with AKs have done the most dirt

i like that though, we should let them fight

The ann coulter clip below, I love my girl, but she should have known better.T old her in person trump was going to sell us out at a book signing

yup, sold out to ISrael, see Ann. That's when the right lost it

and to be fair, if you are still a Trump supporter at this point in time, you probably deserve a beating. I remember when Republicans were hard core to FIGHT the cold war, not surrender to Russia

idiots taking lumps for Trump, who didnt build a wall, completely sold the US out to Israel and Saudi Arabia, etc. what are they taking beatings for?

and when his trade policies caused china to retaliate agaisnt US farmers, where was the outcry about the increased subsidies to farmers? what happened to personal responibility lol

the Amy Schumer Ghostbusters is a masterpiece compared to the joke of the current Right in US

Stefan i dunno man, i dont think he's a hardcore racist

Been watching him since low def. his sucking off of trump is the real problem

The VA, Veteran's Affairs

Though, he often talks about facts and feelings, yet ive seen him get really emotional and use illogic when pushed

responding to fairly good arguments with "not an argument" which is ridiculous

Remember the good ole days when Stefan and Milo did a bunch of episodes together lol. poor milo

Trump played purple rain again after promising not to use prince's music again, and he was in prince's home area

that's the kind of stuff that gets people beat up on the street

you taunt people enough, you will get your ass kicked

Liberal used to mean something very different, so libertarian was invented to be the old definition

Religious arguments between the states was a big reason why we have a Federal system as opposed to one big monolith. mostly because nobody trusted Rhode Island

Which version of liberal? early 1800s liberal? or present day liberal

in the US, the term was hijacked because it had great PR, a common situation across many movements

1880s America was more or less the definition of classical Liberal, but it all went down hill when the overseas wars started, korea, spanish american, wwi

beating up korea in 1870 was the prologue, spanish american war really got it moving, and WWI ended civilization, as people around at the time felt

the War Socialism during WWI in the US radically changed average person's relationship with the government

no WWI, no progressive era, which more or less buried classical liberalism as a political force, until rebranded as libertarianism in the 50s