Message from @Sh0t
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Majority of VOTERS didnt' support trump, electoral college win, and even then, he's only a slightly more dramatic standard issue US politician
Currently no, however after the tensions rise when Trump gets impeached/loses, people will grow angry, and would want something more radical than trump. Which will resort to either a even stronger conservative, or a reactionary traditionalist
They certainly don't support him now, either
Nah, trump's main function is to be a lightning rod for tons of hate that his followers will catch. setting them up to be the baddies in the next big dust up
He's not even a conservative by any stretch of the imagination
especially with this shit going on with the Kurds in turkey, I have friends crying abotu it because they served along side the kurds
I know, but that's not what matters. people THINK he is a conservative. People view him as a conservative, but presuming they grow more angry, they will want someone more radical
DOes anybody really think though? i dunno man
I don't think people think he's a conservative, I just think they wanted somebody anti-establishment(at the beginning)
everybody could see he didn't have traditional family values, life long democrat from NYC, no military service yada yad
Trump isn't radical though, that's the problem. He didn't build the wall, etc. I would make trump look like a liberal
Trump is Obama 2.0, Hope and CHange con for rednecks. only issue is whether they can take the ego hit to admit they were wrong
Their desires also won't matter as much as the world becomes multi-polar, so even if they won domestically, they won't be able to control reality the way previous us administrations could
perfect storm for the aging boomer reactionaries
The scary people are not the angry types you are talking about, it's the super cynical types that are doing the cost-benefit analysis on trump versus whomever
Of course he's not radical. depending on what happens with the impeachment, and the election, we will probably see a reactionary who is much MUCH more radical than trump, more stricter on capitalism, and overall more authoritarian
What I am skeptical about however, Is whether or not they will get elected
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You don't think pendulum will swing back the other way for a turn or two?
If trump loses, or gets impeached, and then loses 2020 if he reruns, and we get a democrat who increases immigration waves drastically, its very unlikely to see another constitutionalist/conservative elected in the next 10 years, even 20, unless they completely destroy the country with strong anti capitalist policies
Depends on which Dem. Bernie won't increase immigration that much, he cares about labor situation
If it ensures his/his parties reelection in the future, he will care
Warren is purple, so most likely status quo on that front continues, biden is a dark sider, so maybe the most with him
yea but it wont that's whole point of bernie and co. The democrats WIN when they go populist, they lose when they dont
@Sh0t that’s unlikely. We’re in the digital age, the meme age, and entertainment is what sells. Look at Trumps most liked tweets. They’re all memes or jokes
I hate the young turks, but that is one of their best analytical ideas
I mean how is Biden in the lead for the dems if that is true. Biden still leading atm
He's the caricature of the eact opposite of that, the guy is almost austically bad socially
Because the dem candidates are all too radical
radical? who
Biden was VP so he has that going for him
Biden? he's mr establishment and has been since my birth and im 38 lol
Biden was to Obama what Bush was to Reagan, the controller
There are no radicals running, by Leftist standards. Bernie only seems radical to far right types
Kamala, Warren, Bernie, Yang etc. they are too far left to win over middle ground voters
KAMALA is a radical LOL you cant be serious
Totally
dude are you serious, kamala is like as mainstream as it gets, which is why she has bad numbers compared to peolpe that do mainstream far better