Exactly because you have no fucking idea what you’re talking about

So maybe lay off the insults and learn a little bit first

Okay nice cop out

Please, read squires trial and come back to me

I guarantee your perspective will have changed

Dude I really don’t care how long ago you woke up

No dude I was asking so that I could ascertain what position you were in

I believe it’s just juvenile sycophancy

Yes because it’s integral to understanding our position

Okay dude here’s the deal, I don’t really care if your national socialist, I’m just saying that if you want to debate me or some other natsoc you have to first have at least a rudimentary understanding of our position. Its like you trying to argue about the rules of chess without even knowing anything about the game

The fact of the matter is that you’re simply uneducated

Lmao there’s a lot of nazis in here

I just looked

@Grucifer how is he a liberal?

Is everyone that says something bad about trump a SJW or liberal?

You are a mindless fucking parrot, I want to hear you back up one opinion you hold

@Donaldus Triumphus I’m sorry what? No debaters here? Have you missed like every single time I’ve tried to start a debate with one of your kind and pretty much gone unopposed. The truth isn’t that you don’t have any debaters but rather that you don’t have any conservatives in here who actually understand and can explain their points of view. In honesty you all seem like the “my parents voted for trump so I like him” types

@An Elbow in 5-6 hours? I got an ACT to take

Sure

Turns out im retarded and the ACT is tomorrow so im free

@An Elbow so, I’ll let you pick the topic

@An Elbow imo abortion is immoral and degenerate, however in cases of mental defect or rape i tolerate it

It is immoral to force a child to live the life of a bastard and for the mother to have to raise an bastard child

That whole situation is fucked for all parties and i don’t think people involved should have to endure it if there is a way out

Dude, can you imagine growing up knowing youre the child of a rapist

Tbh they might end up killing themselves anyway so the stats suggest

To be fair early trimester children have the intellect of goldfish, they are unable of comprehending their own existence and thus do not fear death

^like i said

Would you rather doom someone to a life of pain and potentially suicide, or preemptively grant them the mercy of death

Before they even understand that they exist

@An Elbow pity wallowing about being an unwanted existence?

Dude

And im talking about bastards atm not downies

Yes but one is a fully conscious painful existence, the other is simply a drag in society and culture

Both are an issue

Who is they, and what are you responding to? I just said both are an issue

Okay youre assuming way too much

First off, that rape children want to live in the first place (many dont), secondly that people with severe mental defects even comprehend their own existence

Lmao shoahed

@An Elbow explain a single contribution people with down syndrome have had or currently have on society

Just one, a single one

I really hope this paragraph at least somewhat answers my question but im doubtful

Okay 1. You’d rather moralize and bloviate instead of granting a sad life mercy? That sounds rather evil, 2. They actually arent, most people with down syndrome are that extreme. And yes you can tell, do a bit of research on it
3. Many people with mental defects are given menial tasks simply because of their disability which they often fuck up. And I’d rather not deny a wage to someone who is actually a useful person

So given that they cannot comprehend their own existence, they are not useful, and are a drag on resources. Why should we allow them to be a part of society instead of preemptively preventing it

You know what, hold up

This might sound odd

But explain to me why certain people shouldnt be murdered

Morality is often descriptive not prescriptive

@An Elbow answer my question though

Why is murder of certain people wrong?

At least modern morality not laid out by religious groups @Deleted User

Again @An Elbow this idea is probably very strange, i get that. How about this, do child molesters deserve death?

You dont think killing child molesters is moral? Why not?

Where is your morality derived from? The church? Nature? Current society?

The church yes, organized religion

Is that where you draw your morals from?

@An Elbow im just curious how you derive your morality

So i can get at the root of this

Ah okay, do you remember sodom? And what they did to it?

Did they deserve death? I mean the bible is the guideline for morality in your eyes, does that not imply that some deserve death?

Up to god right?

Didnt he deign for that place to be razed?

Sodom is a story about sinners getting just desserts

Thereby, we can ordain that in god’s eyes, some killing is justified and moral

Most modern christians are jokes who’ve never read the bible once

If you dont know the story of sodom you dont deserve to call yourself a christian

@Deleted User oy vey we gotta get patrick in here

Not really, actually despite your laughing face emojis I have pretty much proven that killing is justified in christian morality

Again, bible lays out morality deigned by god. Bible tells the story of sinners being killed for their actions. Thereby the bible and god justify the killing of certain people

You arent christian if you tolerate the thing god literally said is bad

Holy shit what youre splitting hairs because youre cornered now

Because your own morality system justifies the thing you hate

Yes dude, ive already explained it

Again, bible lays out morality deigned by god. Bible tells the story of sinners being killed for their actions. Thereby the bible and god justify the killing of certain people

Okay so, the sodomites were killed because they sinned

Thereby

Child molesters should be killed

Rapists should be killed

@Archduke Patrarch I talk to this dude about christianity and justification of killing

@An Elbow

Hey uh

If youve read the bible

You would know

That uh

God kinda said that jews were a problem

Exactly

So

Casus belli to kill jews according to the bible then

Because if god (the source of your morality) deigns that something is an issue, well then I guess youre justified in killing them

MORE SPLITTING HAIRS LMAO

Its like your only argument is dancing around shit with semantics

@Eustace HMMMMMM I WONDER

>argues semantics because the bigger picture deconstructs your narrative

Okay so weve established that killing is okay according to christianity

Now

Why is the killing of a group god vehemently hates wrong when god also states or rather implies killing is justified in some cases

Now answer that question for me

Directly this time

Dont dance around shit

@An Elbow answer the fucking question