Message from @Ideal father
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But in 7 hours I'll finally be home...
Sure
Noice
I'll try stay awake š
For context, I'm in the CAT time zone. Or GMT +2
Turns out im retarded and the ACT is tomorrow so im free
@An Elbow so, Iāll let you pick the topic
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Lemme get some coffee first
Ok.... Abortion?@Ideal father
abortion is murder unless it's in the reason of health issues or rape
???????
How does rape make any exception there?
@An Elbow imo abortion is immoral and degenerate, however in cases of mental defect or rape i tolerate it
Health reasons make sense, why force someone to die from a dangerous pregnancy when you can save them.
But again, why is rape an exception??
It is immoral to force a child to live the life of a bastard and for the mother to have to raise an bastard child
That whole situation is fucked for all parties and i donāt think people involved should have to endure it if there is a way out
And how is murder justifiable as "a way out"?
Dude, can you imagine growing up knowing youre the child of a rapist
Yes I can. Can you imagine being murdered as an infant?
And if you kill yourself that is on you, no matter how disgusting your conception was.
What about **Racial Abortions**
To be fair early trimester children have the intellect of goldfish, they are unable of comprehending their own existence and thus do not fear death
Another reason to allow abortion is for mental health problems such as Downs. @An Elbow
^like i said
Would you rather doom someone to a life of pain and potentially suicide, or preemptively grant them the mercy of death
Before they even understand that they exist
Also, setting a societal standard for the practices and making it socially normal works to reduce the chances of it happening. @An Elbow
Plenty retarded people end up being perfectly fine and can fend for themselves after their parents are able to continue helping. The "doom" you refer to is only from self inflicted pity wallowing.
If thereās a high chance my child will be born a downy Iām less likely to have children if I know itās going to be aborted.
@An Elbow pity wallowing about being an unwanted existence?
Dude
And im talking about bastards atm not downies
Both are an issue quite frankly.
Yes but one is a fully conscious painful existence, the other is simply a drag in society and culture
Both are an issue
@Ideal father No, they are equivalent.
Who is they, and what are you responding to? I just said both are an issue
Being retarded and being a rape child. Both are rough lives but both deserve life. You are right! They are both issues! But just because they have greater chance of not having a healthy family and being humiliated an mocked their entire lives doesn't make them need to be murdered.
Ugly people and people with ridiculous opinions can live even worse lives. You saying they should be found and culled before birth too?
No one ādeservesā life.