If we are going with that logic... Then you are right

And, I cannot prove you wrong if you are right. So I am then forced to yield...

@An Elbow in 5-6 hours? I got an ACT to take

I'll be busy then... If 1 hour is too soon, what about 7? I'm busy in 5-6 hours.

But in 7 hours I'll finally be home...

@Ideal father

Sure

Noice

I'll try stay awake 😂

For context, I'm in the CAT time zone. Or GMT +2

Turns out im retarded and the ACT is tomorrow so im free

@An Elbow so, I’ll let you pick the topic

😂

Lemme get some coffee first

Ok.... Abortion?@Ideal father

abortion is murder unless it's in the reason of health issues or rape

???????

How does rape make any exception there?

@An Elbow imo abortion is immoral and degenerate, however in cases of mental defect or rape i tolerate it

Health reasons make sense, why force someone to die from a dangerous pregnancy when you can save them.

But again, why is rape an exception??

It is immoral to force a child to live the life of a bastard and for the mother to have to raise an bastard child

That whole situation is fucked for all parties and i don’t think people involved should have to endure it if there is a way out

And how is murder justifiable as "a way out"?

Dude, can you imagine growing up knowing youre the child of a rapist

Tbh they might end up killing themselves anyway so the stats suggest

Yes I can. Can you imagine being murdered as an infant?
And if you kill yourself that is on you, no matter how disgusting your conception was.

What about **Racial Abortions**

To be fair early trimester children have the intellect of goldfish, they are unable of comprehending their own existence and thus do not fear death

Another reason to allow abortion is for mental health problems such as Downs. @An Elbow

^like i said

Would you rather doom someone to a life of pain and potentially suicide, or preemptively grant them the mercy of death

Before they even understand that they exist

Also, setting a societal standard for the practices and making it socially normal works to reduce the chances of it happening. @An Elbow

Plenty retarded people end up being perfectly fine and can fend for themselves after their parents are able to continue helping. The "doom" you refer to is only from self inflicted pity wallowing.

If there’s a high chance my child will be born a downy I’m less likely to have children if I know it’s going to be aborted.

@An Elbow pity wallowing about being an unwanted existence?

Dude

And im talking about bastards atm not downies

Both are an issue quite frankly.

Yes but one is a fully conscious painful existence, the other is simply a drag in society and culture

Both are an issue