Message from @Ideal father
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Health reasons make sense, why force someone to die from a dangerous pregnancy when you can save them.
But again, why is rape an exception??
It is immoral to force a child to live the life of a bastard and for the mother to have to raise an bastard child
That whole situation is fucked for all parties and i don’t think people involved should have to endure it if there is a way out
And how is murder justifiable as "a way out"?
Dude, can you imagine growing up knowing youre the child of a rapist
Tbh they might end up killing themselves anyway so the stats suggest
Yes I can. Can you imagine being murdered as an infant?
And if you kill yourself that is on you, no matter how disgusting your conception was.
What about **Racial Abortions**
To be fair early trimester children have the intellect of goldfish, they are unable of comprehending their own existence and thus do not fear death
Another reason to allow abortion is for mental health problems such as Downs. @An Elbow
^like i said
Would you rather doom someone to a life of pain and potentially suicide, or preemptively grant them the mercy of death
Before they even understand that they exist
Also, setting a societal standard for the practices and making it socially normal works to reduce the chances of it happening. @An Elbow
Plenty retarded people end up being perfectly fine and can fend for themselves after their parents are able to continue helping. The "doom" you refer to is only from self inflicted pity wallowing.
If there’s a high chance my child will be born a downy I’m less likely to have children if I know it’s going to be aborted.
@An Elbow pity wallowing about being an unwanted existence?
Dude
And im talking about bastards atm not downies
Both are an issue quite frankly.
Yes but one is a fully conscious painful existence, the other is simply a drag in society and culture
Both are an issue
@Ideal father No, they are equivalent.
Who is they, and what are you responding to? I just said both are an issue
Being retarded and being a rape child. Both are rough lives but both deserve life. You are right! They are both issues! But just because they have greater chance of not having a healthy family and being humiliated an mocked their entire lives doesn't make them need to be murdered.
Ugly people and people with ridiculous opinions can live even worse lives. You saying they should be found and culled before birth too?
No one “deserves” life.
Okay youre assuming way too much
@Deleted User Fair enough. But plenty DON'T deserve murder
͏Li͏f͏e is simply a state of being. You are either alive or dead. All organisms live and die. So, why do we all deserve death but not life?
First off, that rape children want to live in the first place (many dont), secondly that people with severe mental defects even comprehend their own existence
Well, your contributions decide wether you deserve good or bad upon you.
A useless retard deserves bad. @An Elbow
Lmao shoahed
@An Elbow explain a single contribution people with down syndrome have had or currently have on society
Just one, a single one
Retards are the worst of man.
E u g e n i c s
I really hope this paragraph at least somewhat answers my question but im doubtful
@Ideal father "that rape children want to live in the first place (many dont)" Still their choice. Still doesn't justify murder.
"secondly that people with severe mental defects even comprehend their own existence" Fair argument. But such extremes are rare, and generally you can't tell how bad retardism will be before birth.
"contribution" is vague. Likelihood is neither of us will make spectacular contributions to society, but just doing "a job" is a contribution . Like a janitor, etc. Would you rather an ordinary person do something so menial or someone who is literally only capable of that?
You realize lots of them and fundamentally incapable of work right? @An Elbow
Retards generally should not breed regardless though.