Message from @Ideal father

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2018-08-29 14:28:37 UTC  

Health reasons make sense, why force someone to die from a dangerous pregnancy when you can save them.

But again, why is rape an exception??

2018-08-29 14:30:47 UTC  

It is immoral to force a child to live the life of a bastard and for the mother to have to raise an bastard child

2018-08-29 14:31:13 UTC  

That whole situation is fucked for all parties and i don’t think people involved should have to endure it if there is a way out

2018-08-29 14:31:38 UTC  

And how is murder justifiable as "a way out"?

2018-08-29 14:33:12 UTC  

Dude, can you imagine growing up knowing youre the child of a rapist

2018-08-29 14:33:42 UTC  

Tbh they might end up killing themselves anyway so the stats suggest

2018-08-29 14:34:43 UTC  

Yes I can. Can you imagine being murdered as an infant?
And if you kill yourself that is on you, no matter how disgusting your conception was.

2018-08-29 14:36:10 UTC  

What about **Racial Abortions**

2018-08-29 14:36:14 UTC  

To be fair early trimester children have the intellect of goldfish, they are unable of comprehending their own existence and thus do not fear death

2018-08-29 14:36:42 UTC  

Another reason to allow abortion is for mental health problems such as Downs. @An Elbow

2018-08-29 14:36:50 UTC  

^like i said

2018-08-29 14:37:41 UTC  

Would you rather doom someone to a life of pain and potentially suicide, or preemptively grant them the mercy of death

2018-08-29 14:37:54 UTC  

Before they even understand that they exist

2018-08-29 14:38:51 UTC  

Also, setting a societal standard for the practices and making it socially normal works to reduce the chances of it happening. @An Elbow

2018-08-29 14:39:30 UTC  

Plenty retarded people end up being perfectly fine and can fend for themselves after their parents are able to continue helping. The "doom" you refer to is only from self inflicted pity wallowing.

2018-08-29 14:39:31 UTC  

If there’s a high chance my child will be born a downy I’m less likely to have children if I know it’s going to be aborted.

2018-08-29 14:40:24 UTC  

@An Elbow pity wallowing about being an unwanted existence?

2018-08-29 14:40:28 UTC  

Dude

2018-08-29 14:40:54 UTC  

And im talking about bastards atm not downies

2018-08-29 14:41:19 UTC  

Both are an issue quite frankly.

2018-08-29 14:41:49 UTC  

Yes but one is a fully conscious painful existence, the other is simply a drag in society and culture

2018-08-29 14:42:05 UTC  

Both are an issue

2018-08-29 14:42:41 UTC  

@Ideal father No, they are equivalent.

2018-08-29 14:43:13 UTC  

Who is they, and what are you responding to? I just said both are an issue

2018-08-29 14:47:20 UTC  

Being retarded and being a rape child. Both are rough lives but both deserve life. You are right! They are both issues! But just because they have greater chance of not having a healthy family and being humiliated an mocked their entire lives doesn't make them need to be murdered.

Ugly people and people with ridiculous opinions can live even worse lives. You saying they should be found and culled before birth too?

2018-08-29 14:48:03 UTC  

No one “deserves” life.

2018-08-29 14:48:14 UTC  

Okay youre assuming way too much

2018-08-29 14:48:51 UTC  

@Deleted User Fair enough. But plenty DON'T deserve murder

2018-08-29 14:49:05 UTC  

͏Li͏f͏e is simply a state of being. You are either alive or dead. All organisms live and die. So, why do we all deserve death but not life?

2018-08-29 14:49:08 UTC  

First off, that rape children want to live in the first place (many dont), secondly that people with severe mental defects even comprehend their own existence

2018-08-29 14:49:28 UTC  

Well, your contributions decide wether you deserve good or bad upon you.

2018-08-29 14:49:44 UTC  

A useless retard deserves bad. @An Elbow

2018-08-29 14:49:45 UTC  

Lmao shoahed

2018-08-29 14:50:21 UTC  

@An Elbow explain a single contribution people with down syndrome have had or currently have on society

2018-08-29 14:50:43 UTC  

Just one, a single one

2018-08-29 14:54:04 UTC  

Retards are the worst of man.

2018-08-29 14:54:20 UTC  

E u g e n i c s

2018-08-29 14:55:09 UTC  

I really hope this paragraph at least somewhat answers my question but im doubtful

2018-08-29 14:55:23 UTC  

@Ideal father "that rape children want to live in the first place (many dont)" Still their choice. Still doesn't justify murder.

"secondly that people with severe mental defects even comprehend their own existence" Fair argument. But such extremes are rare, and generally you can't tell how bad retardism will be before birth.

"contribution" is vague. Likelihood is neither of us will make spectacular contributions to society, but just doing "a job" is a contribution . Like a janitor, etc. Would you rather an ordinary person do something so menial or someone who is literally only capable of that?

2018-08-29 14:56:52 UTC  

You realize lots of them and fundamentally incapable of work right? @An Elbow

2018-08-29 14:57:14 UTC  

Retards generally should not breed regardless though.