Okay youre assuming way too much

@Deleted User Fair enough. But plenty DON'T deserve murder

͏Li͏f͏e is simply a state of being. You are either alive or dead. All organisms live and die. So, why do we all deserve death but not life?

First off, that rape children want to live in the first place (many dont), secondly that people with severe mental defects even comprehend their own existence

Well, your contributions decide wether you deserve good or bad upon you.

A useless retard deserves bad. @An Elbow

Lmao shoahed

@An Elbow explain a single contribution people with down syndrome have had or currently have on society

Just one, a single one

Retards are the worst of man.

E u g e n i c s

I really hope this paragraph at least somewhat answers my question but im doubtful

@Ideal father "that rape children want to live in the first place (many dont)" Still their choice. Still doesn't justify murder.

"secondly that people with severe mental defects even comprehend their own existence" Fair argument. But such extremes are rare, and generally you can't tell how bad retardism will be before birth.

"contribution" is vague. Likelihood is neither of us will make spectacular contributions to society, but just doing "a job" is a contribution . Like a janitor, etc. Would you rather an ordinary person do something so menial or someone who is literally only capable of that?

You realize lots of them and fundamentally incapable of work right? @An Elbow

Retards generally should not breed regardless though.

Did you read what I said about rare cases???

“Extremes are rare” well, Downies in general are the extreme. And there’s no reason they shouldn’t be aborted. No

Okay 1. You’d rather moralize and bloviate instead of granting a sad life mercy? That sounds rather evil, 2. They actually arent, most people with down syndrome are that extreme. And yes you can tell, do a bit of research on it
3. Many people with mental defects are given menial tasks simply because of their disability which they often fuck up. And I’d rather not deny a wage to someone who is actually a useful person

This is literally only an issue in a white society.

Smh altruistic aryan bois

So given that they cannot comprehend their own existence, they are not useful, and are a drag on resources. Why should we allow them to be a part of society instead of preemptively preventing it

You know what, hold up

This might sound odd

But explain to me why certain people shouldnt be murdered

"And yes you can tell, do a bit of research on it" ???
You act as if you think I have not met a single retard. I happen to know quite a few, only one of them can compare to a vegetable, the rest are quite capable of having meaningful existences and conritributing to society.

To be fair, morality is defined by normality in nature.

Morality is often descriptive not prescriptive

@An Elbow answer my question though

Why is murder of certain people wrong?

At least modern morality not laid out by religious groups @Deleted User

Again @An Elbow this idea is probably very strange, i get that. How about this, do child molesters deserve death?

"But explain to me why certain people shouldnt be murdered" Best answer I can think of is if they are not a terrible danger to society, their death should be their choice.

Yea. I think Nature is the proper arbiter for morality because it accounts for what people and other animals actually are. @Ideal father

"do child molesters deserve death" if it were up to me, yes. But I don't feel it is moral

You dont think killing child molesters is moral? Why not?

You don’t “feel” it’s moral. There’s your issue. @An Elbow

Where is your morality derived from? The church? Nature? Current society?

#Pagang Nature Gang

"church" lol

The church yes, organized religion

Modern monotheism