SaintHeartwing

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2018-08-11 00:42:47 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Okay...everyone's seen the whole takedown of Alex Jones's channel, right? Right? And Sargon's been all "This is horrible, this is inexcusable, how dare they stamp on free speech". Right?

2018-08-11 00:44:05 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Now, I'm not gonna go "Private platforms can do this and this and whatever they want, that's capitalism and you always love that stuff". No. I'm gonna ask a really...really simple question. Did Sargon object to James Gunn being fired by Disney? Yes or no? Did he object to Gunn being fired over the tweets that surfaced?

2018-08-11 00:48:39 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Okay, then he can't be mad about Alex Jones.

2018-08-11 00:48:45 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Alex Jones made HIS bed...and now must lie in it.

2018-08-11 00:48:59 UTC [Sparta #general]  

And unlike Alex Jones, nobody shot up anything over what James Gunn did.

2018-08-11 00:55:55 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Gunn LOST his job

2018-08-11 00:57:49 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Yeah, he got fired by Disney over the tweets

2018-08-11 00:57:55 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Didn't you read the news?

2018-08-11 00:58:01 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It was all over the internet for weeks and weeks

2018-08-11 00:58:10 UTC [Sparta #general]  

That's why the hashtag is "RehireJamesGunn"

2018-08-11 00:59:02 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Also, in relation to Alex Jones and the whole "c'mon, prove he inspired people to do violence thing"...I don't even have to bring up Pizzagate. What about Finsbury Park?

2018-08-11 00:59:51 UTC [Sparta #general]  

And I remind you this...is the WASHINGTON TIMES. They're not known for being liberal. At all.

2018-08-11 01:00:53 UTC [Sparta #general]  

But they do have an obligation to make sure that people aren't ABUSING said platforms because rampant abuse makes it harder on everyone

2018-08-11 01:01:04 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Facebook are cowards.

2018-08-11 01:01:11 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I've always thought so.

2018-08-11 01:01:23 UTC [Sparta #general]  

They only care about money and advertising and selling your private info to advertisers

2018-08-11 01:01:55 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Why? Simple. Baltimore.

2018-08-11 01:02:17 UTC [Sparta #general]  

While the MSM was preoccupied with 'Nerd Prom', REAL news was unfolding on Twitter, with people actually talking, filming and showing what was happening.

2018-08-11 01:02:32 UTC [Sparta #general]  

This is why social media exists. To help bring to light stuff ignored by "normal" media outlets

2018-08-11 01:02:40 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Or rather, it's a useful tool to FORCE them to pay attention

2018-08-11 01:03:30 UTC [Sparta #general]  

You ARE somewhat liable for the content because you make the rules that determine what is and isn't allowed

2018-08-11 01:03:52 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Do you not get that not having standards is cowardice?

2018-08-11 01:04:03 UTC [Sparta #general]  

You can't just say "everyone should be free to say whatever". Because that is a dumb f--kin' idea.

2018-08-11 01:04:12 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The Marketplace of Ideas only works in PRACTICE. Not theory.

2018-08-11 01:04:25 UTC [Sparta #general]  

If it DID work in practice, then we wouldn't have the idiots we have in charge.

2018-08-11 01:04:44 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Because guess what? Debates don't really show you who has the best arguments. They just show who's the BETTER DEBATER.

2018-08-11 01:05:05 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Because not all ideas are equal?

2018-08-11 01:05:10 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Don't you understand the "paradox of tolerance"?

2018-08-11 01:05:41 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The idea is that if you just allow EVERYTHING, it will give rise to extremes that will gain power and use the exploitation of unlimited freedom to eventually kill all freedom but for THEIR People

2018-08-11 01:06:00 UTC [Sparta #general]  

We already have limits on free speech because we recognize all speech shouldn't be unlimited

2018-08-11 01:06:19 UTC [Sparta #general]  

We don't allow slander, libel, defamation, shouting "fire" in a theater, child porn, etc, etc.

2018-08-11 01:06:40 UTC [Sparta #general]  

We decided to limit free speech to some degree because we get that having some basic standards is common sense.

2018-08-11 01:06:48 UTC [Sparta #general]  

No, they won't.

2018-08-11 01:07:02 UTC [Sparta #general]  

And if you don't believe me, I don't even have to point to Germany. I can point to DICK CHENEY.

2018-08-11 01:07:10 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Do any of you remember the 2000 VP debates?

2018-08-11 01:07:43 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Lieberman was Gore's VP. he said to Cheney "I see you've been doing better than you were four years go". Remember that? And Cheney said "And I can tell you the govt had absolutely nothing to do with that." Remember that?

2018-08-11 01:07:55 UTC [Sparta #general]  

And guess what? People said CHENEY won that debate.

2018-08-11 01:08:04 UTC [Sparta #general]  

You could argue it helped push Bush into winning.

2018-08-11 01:08:12 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It proved Cheney was the better debater.

2018-08-11 01:08:32 UTC [Sparta #general]  

But the thing is...his point was wrong. The govt DID have something to do with it cuz Cheney's company had gotten SUPER RICH off military contracts

2018-08-11 01:08:50 UTC [Sparta #general]  

So the whole "if you just let people debate, the truth will come out" thing isn't true

2018-08-11 01:09:01 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It just means that the better debater will win

2018-08-11 01:09:04 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Even if his points are BS

2018-08-11 01:09:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

That's my point.

2018-08-11 01:09:41 UTC [Sparta #general]  

If people were smart and logical, that'd be true. But they're not.

2018-08-11 01:09:46 UTC [Sparta #general]  

People aren't logical beings.

2018-08-11 01:09:52 UTC [Sparta #general]  

They're emotional ones

2018-08-11 01:10:12 UTC [Sparta #general]  

People still support Gary Johnson and he did an interview sticking his tongue out

2018-08-11 01:10:21 UTC [Sparta #general]  

So...dunno about that "stuttering baffoon" thing

2018-08-11 01:10:37 UTC [Sparta #general]  

And that whole "don't have time" thing astounds me. It just takes a five minute google search

2018-08-11 01:10:53 UTC [Sparta #general]  

People can't take five minutes or half a minute to do a google search for "so and so fact check"?

2018-08-11 01:11:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Well, maybe that should change

2018-08-11 01:11:14 UTC [Sparta #general]  

If people did more fact checking, we might not have the issues we got

2018-08-11 01:12:33 UTC [Sparta #general]  

That might be true for some, but that's why you should go to multiple ones, and if they're saying similar things, then the answer probably is what they're saying it is

2018-08-11 01:12:39 UTC [Sparta #general]  

"Occam's Razor", after all

2018-08-11 01:12:46 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The simple solution that fits the evidence is the truth

2018-08-11 01:13:51 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Content ID is being shit to Ethan

2018-08-11 01:14:00 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It's their title searching filters

2018-08-11 01:14:08 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Kind of like how just MENTIONING Nazis in your title will get takedowns

2018-08-11 01:14:26 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I saw this with 'Counter Arguments' on their "Punch A Nazi" video when they analyzed whether or not you SHOULD, in fact, punch nazis

2018-08-11 01:14:43 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Wait.

2018-08-11 01:14:45 UTC [Sparta #general]  

...owls?

2018-08-11 01:15:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

...okay!

2018-08-11 01:15:09 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Behold

2018-08-11 01:18:03 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Don't be silly. SJWs don't go to luaus. Total 'cultural appropriation"! XD

2018-08-11 01:18:21 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Ah

2018-08-11 01:18:30 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Also, for the APP, I dunno

2018-08-11 01:18:38 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Apple allow some real s--t on their app store

2018-08-11 01:19:18 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Mine? Left of center, it depends on what you're asking me about. Like, I don't give a shit about pot, I'm okay with the death penalty and military intervention, and I really don't give a shit what people do in the bedroom.

2018-08-11 01:20:18 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Evidently being for ANY military intervention makes me automatically evil to many liberals.

2018-08-11 01:20:42 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Wait, what? Really? The Sherman Antitrust...really?

2018-08-11 01:21:23 UTC [Sparta #general]  

...okay, that would be flagrantly abusive of his power. I mean, OBAMA didn't order consequences for Fox News when they were criticizing him. In fact, he had O'Reilly and others do multiple interviews of him.

2018-08-11 01:21:36 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Uh, do you not remember Bush?

2018-08-11 01:21:41 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Like...at all?

2018-08-11 01:21:45 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Bush was not a liberal.

2018-08-11 01:21:51 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Bolton is not a liberal.

2018-08-11 01:22:03 UTC [Sparta #general]  

And he's pushing for military regime change of IRAN

2018-08-11 01:22:37 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Most liberals aren't because they're against military action

2018-08-11 01:23:12 UTC [Sparta #general]  

They're okay with HUMANITARIAN intervention and stuff like sending aid, but if you even remotely talk about drone strikes, no fly zones, any type of boots on the ground, you get yelled at.

2018-08-11 01:23:27 UTC [Sparta #general]  

After all, Obama and his drone strikes were a huge issue for liberals

2018-08-11 01:23:41 UTC [Sparta #general]  

That was the big thing he got hammered on over and over. "You're bombing all these countries!!!"

2018-08-11 01:23:49 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Oh, yeah, they did.

2018-08-11 01:24:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

No, it's not

2018-08-11 01:24:13 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Military intervention and humanitarian aid isn't the same

2018-08-11 01:24:17 UTC [Sparta #general]  

There ARE differences

2018-08-11 01:24:33 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The same way a sanction isn't the same thing as cruise missiles shootinga t you

2018-08-11 01:25:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Yes.

2018-08-11 01:25:09 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Maduro is stupid

2018-08-11 01:25:11 UTC [Sparta #general]  

And paranoid

2018-08-11 01:25:19 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Not YET

2018-08-11 01:25:24 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Survived the drone bomb thing

2018-08-11 01:25:41 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Also, despite what CERTAIN people think, we didn't intervene in the 2002 coup

2018-08-11 01:25:56 UTC [Sparta #general]  

All I hear is liberals whining about that

2018-08-11 01:26:25 UTC [Sparta #general]  

People like "Secular Talk" or "The Humanist Report" or "Michael Brooks of the Majority Report", etc, etc

2018-08-11 01:26:50 UTC [Sparta #general]  

If you're gonna criticize American intervention, don't make up shit about it. And yes, Kyle is

2018-08-11 01:26:58 UTC [Sparta #general]  

He's also a moron who thinks Assad didn't gas his own people

2018-08-11 01:28:13 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Rogan's not too bad

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