Message from @SaintHeartwing

Discord ID: 477643418676494337


2018-08-11 01:01:11 UTC  

I've always thought so.

2018-08-11 01:01:23 UTC  

They only care about money and advertising and selling your private info to advertisers

2018-08-11 01:01:25 UTC  

@SaintHeartwing No, see, PUBLISHERS are obligated to curate their clients content.

2018-08-11 01:01:35 UTC  

Because they are liable

2018-08-11 01:01:43 UTC  

why do you all use social media? i've been unplugged for like, 4 years. Never been happier.

2018-08-11 01:01:49 UTC  

Thats why i came in here last week asking questions

2018-08-11 01:01:55 UTC  

Why? Simple. Baltimore.

2018-08-11 01:02:17 UTC  

While the MSM was preoccupied with 'Nerd Prom', REAL news was unfolding on Twitter, with people actually talking, filming and showing what was happening.

2018-08-11 01:02:32 UTC  

This is why social media exists. To help bring to light stuff ignored by "normal" media outlets

2018-08-11 01:02:39 UTC  

with the baning of alex jones they did open pandoras box on all the sights. if someone makes a vid promoting terrorisem, with the new rules youtube have a part of the blame if something happens. it was not like that before the banning

2018-08-11 01:02:40 UTC  

Or rather, it's a useful tool to FORCE them to pay attention

2018-08-11 01:03:02 UTC  

Isn't still super easy to fall into an echochamber though?

2018-08-11 01:03:12 UTC  

@SaintHeartwing Once you start acting like you are liable for your users content, the laws governing publishers should be brought into play, which removes a lot of the protections they currently enjoy

2018-08-11 01:03:30 UTC  

You ARE somewhat liable for the content because you make the rules that determine what is and isn't allowed

2018-08-11 01:03:43 UTC  

@SaintHeartwing That's not what liability is

2018-08-11 01:03:52 UTC  

Do you not get that not having standards is cowardice?

2018-08-11 01:04:02 UTC  

they did break the safe harbor deal

2018-08-11 01:04:03 UTC  

You can't just say "everyone should be free to say whatever". Because that is a dumb f--kin' idea.

2018-08-11 01:04:12 UTC  

The Marketplace of Ideas only works in PRACTICE. Not theory.

2018-08-11 01:04:25 UTC  

If it DID work in practice, then we wouldn't have the idiots we have in charge.

2018-08-11 01:04:30 UTC  

@SaintHeartwing That's the argument social media companies already used years ago to get where they are

2018-08-11 01:04:44 UTC  

Because guess what? Debates don't really show you who has the best arguments. They just show who's the BETTER DEBATER.

2018-08-11 01:04:48 UTC  

it an excellent idea. it brings out the idiots in to the light for all to see

2018-08-11 01:04:51 UTC  

if you are free to think it why shouldnt you be free to say it

2018-08-11 01:05:05 UTC  

Because not all ideas are equal?

2018-08-11 01:05:10 UTC  

Don't you understand the "paradox of tolerance"?

2018-08-11 01:05:32 UTC  

do you understand the point of free speech?

2018-08-11 01:05:33 UTC  

@SaintHeartwing You should probably look up the court cases these companies have been involved in in order to skirt liability for their users content.

2018-08-11 01:05:41 UTC  

The idea is that if you just allow EVERYTHING, it will give rise to extremes that will gain power and use the exploitation of unlimited freedom to eventually kill all freedom but for THEIR People

2018-08-11 01:05:48 UTC  

wtf?

2018-08-11 01:06:00 UTC  

We already have limits on free speech because we recognize all speech shouldn't be unlimited

2018-08-11 01:06:10 UTC  

Are you rarted?

2018-08-11 01:06:13 UTC  

no it wont. The political system has nothing to do with speech

2018-08-11 01:06:19 UTC  

We don't allow slander, libel, defamation, shouting "fire" in a theater, child porn, etc, etc.

2018-08-11 01:06:28 UTC  

in fact, by silencing people you make people sympathetic

2018-08-11 01:06:39 UTC  

Oh, you are retarded

2018-08-11 01:06:40 UTC  

We decided to limit free speech to some degree because we get that having some basic standards is common sense.

2018-08-11 01:06:44 UTC  

Im all for giving anyone a big stage to speak on, if you are an idiot the world will see

2018-08-11 01:06:48 UTC  

No, they won't.

2018-08-11 01:07:02 UTC  

And if you don't believe me, I don't even have to point to Germany. I can point to DICK CHENEY.