Message from @SaintHeartwing
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with the baning of alex jones they did open pandoras box on all the sights. if someone makes a vid promoting terrorisem, with the new rules youtube have a part of the blame if something happens. it was not like that before the banning
Or rather, it's a useful tool to FORCE them to pay attention
Isn't still super easy to fall into an echochamber though?
@SaintHeartwing Once you start acting like you are liable for your users content, the laws governing publishers should be brought into play, which removes a lot of the protections they currently enjoy
You ARE somewhat liable for the content because you make the rules that determine what is and isn't allowed
@SaintHeartwing That's not what liability is
Do you not get that not having standards is cowardice?
they did break the safe harbor deal
You can't just say "everyone should be free to say whatever". Because that is a dumb f--kin' idea.
The Marketplace of Ideas only works in PRACTICE. Not theory.
If it DID work in practice, then we wouldn't have the idiots we have in charge.
@SaintHeartwing That's the argument social media companies already used years ago to get where they are
Because guess what? Debates don't really show you who has the best arguments. They just show who's the BETTER DEBATER.
it an excellent idea. it brings out the idiots in to the light for all to see
if you are free to think it why shouldnt you be free to say it
Because not all ideas are equal?
Don't you understand the "paradox of tolerance"?
do you understand the point of free speech?
@SaintHeartwing You should probably look up the court cases these companies have been involved in in order to skirt liability for their users content.
The idea is that if you just allow EVERYTHING, it will give rise to extremes that will gain power and use the exploitation of unlimited freedom to eventually kill all freedom but for THEIR People
wtf?
We already have limits on free speech because we recognize all speech shouldn't be unlimited
Are you rarted?
no it wont. The political system has nothing to do with speech
We don't allow slander, libel, defamation, shouting "fire" in a theater, child porn, etc, etc.
in fact, by silencing people you make people sympathetic
Oh, you are retarded
We decided to limit free speech to some degree because we get that having some basic standards is common sense.
Im all for giving anyone a big stage to speak on, if you are an idiot the world will see
No, they won't.
And if you don't believe me, I don't even have to point to Germany. I can point to DICK CHENEY.
Do any of you remember the 2000 VP debates?
I didn't know they made this brand of idiocy...
Lieberman was Gore's VP. he said to Cheney "I see you've been doing better than you were four years go". Remember that? And Cheney said "And I can tell you the govt had absolutely nothing to do with that." Remember that?
And guess what? People said CHENEY won that debate.
No I'm not a boomer
can we ban this guy
You could argue it helped push Bush into winning.
It proved Cheney was the better debater.
But the thing is...his point was wrong. The govt DID have something to do with it cuz Cheney's company had gotten SUPER RICH off military contracts